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Doug Malloy V.I.P. Palmdale,Ca. 69 Posts |
Interested to know how some of you go about finding or buying new routines?
What makes something a good trick for you? Is the price of something a big issue if you really believe it to be a good effect, and know you'll use it? |
Jim Pace V.I.P. Portland Oregon 556 Posts |
Although I will probably never reach the level of your expertise, I would like to give my feelings on the subjects you mentioned.
Most of the things that I create, come from a need. Or from inspiration from seeing an effect. Some times by watching or creating an act a thought comes to you." Boy, this could be cool if I could..." and you go from there. What if? Why not? Price would be a factor with me, but I perform mostly close up magic. I would imagine that on stage if the effect was excellent and fit my style, I would pay any price. Any trick can be excellent, presenting them well is more important.
"The drum that beats the loudest is always the most hollow."
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Doug Malloy V.I.P. Palmdale,Ca. 69 Posts |
Wonderfully put!
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Shawn D Elite user Hughson,Ca 465 Posts |
When I buy a trick I usally start out by learning it the way the instructions say. I do this till I can get the trick down then I will start adding into it my own stlye and presentation and other stuff to make the trick mine. Even though someone might have seen another magician do that trick they don't realise it is the same trick becasue I have totally remade the trick. As far a price. As long as I know I am going to use the trick the price don't really matter. I think it is better to pay a higher price that way every magician in your town isn't doing the same tricks you are.
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Bill Citino Special user Doylestown, PA 837 Posts |
I'd have to second what Mr. Pace has said. I do mostly coin magic so when I'm trying to come up with a good routine I think to myself, "What really hasn't been done?" and also "If it has been done how could I make it better?" From there I'll just write whatever the effect would be that I want to accomplish and then try to work out a handling. Other times I'll just be playing around with the coins and something will come to me and I'll work something out with that. But basically that is how I go about finding a new routine.
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Nick Alexander New user Australia 60 Posts |
Whenever I buy a trick I will always buy it for the effect, because although I haven't been performing magic for that long I really like to make up bits and pieces of patter that will go well with the effect.
I think that's half the fun of magic, getting ideas that will make tricks seem like your own. It's lots of fun TMM Of course sometimes the tricks just work well with the patter that's already there, so really, if the shoe fits,i suppose wear it. |
Simon Williams New user Sully, South Wales 54 Posts |
I try only to buy now what I know I will use. Having said that most of my purchases have been books, notes etc. I like the less is more theory going less & less for 'propy' effects.
It's my wife who says 'Why don't you do that one with milk from the arm, or burn the tissue bags etc' I really think that audiences do like sometimes to see the 'prop' tricks. Hence, as stated elsewhere I am tempted by the Lemon Game. (BTW, Doug, do you have any plans producing this for the British Market ie. Cards printed with £ signs etc?) I must say though I will sometimes 'pay up to find the secret'. |
C Christian Loyal user 288 Posts |
Hello Doug,
I ask myself 3 main questions in this order. 1. Will this enhance my existing show or act 2. Will I be able to run with the effect, meaning add my personality to it or jokes. 3. Reliability and cost, go hand in hand for me. I will spend top dollar for an effect I see worth my time. Most effects don't get past question #1 if they do I seriosly think about how I am going to use it and I may even make up a mock up of it (that never works) and toy with this to see if it's realy is something I want it's at this stage that I'm running patter in my head. As in your case I bought the Chattering teath... LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT Chris Christian the little tramp guy |
Jason Bay Regular user Seattle, WA 117 Posts |
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Interested to know how some of you go about finding I used to discover new tricks by skimming magic magazines and catalogs, but more and more I'm hearing about new stuff through Web forums like this one. Quote:
What makes something a good trick for you? Since my background is primarily table-hopping, I'm stuck in the mindset of only going for routines that require little setup, and can be repeated without an involved reset. I'm also drawn to more "commercial" effects, that have a big impact for laymen even if they're not very interesting to magicians. Quote:
Is the price of something a big issue if you really believe it to be a good effect, and know you'll use it? Absolutely not. If I know that I'll use the effect, I'll buy it as long as the price isn't an obvious gouge. (I do buy effects that I know I'll never perform, just to "play" with them. In these cases, I can't justify spending *too* awful much, unless maybe the props are very well-made or look very nice.) |
Doug Malloy V.I.P. Palmdale,Ca. 69 Posts |
Great input
Thanks... |
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