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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Salazar:
Man I am so so jealous. I would wipe Shimada's feet just to hang out with him for 5 mins. I admire his work so much.
Kyle Peron
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Leo B. Domapias Loyal user 297 Posts |
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On 2003-11-15 18:53, -The Scot- wrote: Kyle is right. Sometimes we magicians over think our magic and forget how it feels to be a layperson. I don’t see the point of fussing over the fact that people know about the collapsibility of umbrellas. I believe that knowledge will not undermine in a big way, if at all, the impact of the umbrella production, provided the magician employs psychological touches and subtleties in his performance. Most people know that sponge balls can be compressed. But that knowledge doesn’t prevent skillful magicians from getting bug-eyed reactions from his audience when the sponge ball multiplies inside the closed hand of a spectator. Most people know that the magician’s lady assistant can assume a near fetal position inside the box when it is sawn in half. That knowledge has not prevented the “Sawing a Lady in Half” from becoming one of the most enduring classics of magic. Most people know that the lady assistant can contort her body inside the Zig-Zag. But that knowledge hasn’t stopped this chestnut from baffling audiences around the world for many years, no thanks to Valentino. Most people know that a magician has the skill to control a card seemingly lost in the deck. That knowledge hasn't prevented magicians from entertaining audiences with the Ambiious Card. What does all this mean? I think it means that people watching a magic performance can start with a basic assumption of the principles employed to produce a magical effect. Whether accurate or not, that assumption does not necessarily weaken the impact of the trick, provided the trick is clothed in psychological subterfuges that counteract, cancel out or nullify the suspicion stemming from the basic assumption. In other words, audience suspicion is not necessarily a deterrent to the performance of good magic. Ben Benjay Manila, Philippines |
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Vibono Magic Special user Växjö,Sweden 647 Posts |
Sure they use umbrellas and knowe that they colapse but they don't knowe thhat you can have six or seven hiden on your body and isn't that what the production is for a layman, "where does all thise parasols come from?"
Everybode has used a deck of cards and knowe that it is smal and that they can be held in a fan. Most do that themself when they are playing cards, but they still reacte when you produce fan after fan in a card secuense or when you do a fan for pick-a-card-trick. Ofcoure it wouldent be much magic just to take the paralols out and opening them but with cover of a large silk or something and time misdirection the paralols come from the silk that to laymen cant hide anything.
Vibono Mirage
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Vibono:
You do have a point hwoever your job as a maghician is to CHNAGE this thinking in the lay person. Do not make them leave your act thinking where did they come from and how did he do that. Make them and force them to leave saying,"Man I was entertained and had a great time. That magician was very good." There is such a huge difference between the two. We are not about fooling anyone and magic should never be about that. It should be about entertaining people in the best method possible through magic, acting, character and style on stage.
Kyle Peron
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
On reflection, if the appearance of an umbrella makes sense to the act, then by all means do it.
Just think about the misdirection, the handling and the color and effectiveness of the production. Should it be HUGE or just a surprise ?? Can you do something to follow that will KILL ?? Let us know.
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Vibono Magic Special user Växjö,Sweden 647 Posts |
Pete, Kyle:
You are both right I use the production of umbrellas in my act like a running gag. It seams like I can't get rid of the umbrella. People are entertained as well as suprised of the endless producton of umbrellas. As for the kill I use the umbrellas as a cover to produce my assistant at the end.
Vibono Mirage
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limkris Regular user Belgium 166 Posts |
A french magician named Alpha sells a burning torch that changes in a big parasol.
Does anybody know about a broken and restored umbrella? K.L. |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Kl:
Your thinking of the mutulated parasol effect.
Kyle Peron
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limkris Regular user Belgium 166 Posts |
Yeah, but without silks.
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
The umbrellas do not make the magic the performer does.
I had the good fortune to work backstage with Shimada at Abbott's last year. I have also worked backstage with Fukai and Kimika (sp). I was also priviledged to be around Ward Thomas who basically did a dove act with umbrellas. He could even take off his coat at the end and get rid of the body loads. I won't tip his act but he bought his umbrellas at the dime store and gaffed them himself. The thing all of these acts have going for them is color and flash. Eye Candy. Real people love to watch pretty stuff being produced. All work fast and everything has been honed out over thousands of performance. Blocking sells every production to the audience. Having said all that, let me say I produce an umbrella shortly before I produce 2 eleven bloom bouquets, a 25 bloom botania on a pot and 150' of mylar coil from a garden of flowers foulard. I use the umbrella to catch the coil. When I worked with an assistant years ago, I had Abbott's make me two Flash parasols to match my Mutilated Parasol. As I finished the routine, I handed the restored parasol to the assistant who moved in front of me and knealed. At the same time, I stole the two matching parasol from a back load on me and produced them holding them to the sides and above us. It made a nice picture and gave a tada to the routine. Jay Marshall always said "Paint a picture". In reality, that is all the parasol productions are...painting a picture.
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Kjellstrom Inner circle Sweden, Scandinavia, Europe 5203 Posts |
Umbrellas From Silks:
http://siam-magic.com/product_detail.php?pid=128 |
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Karl Danne New user 11 Posts |
I don't exactly remember who was the one asking for ideas to the umbrella production. I will only say (trying not to give away the effect): relate the umbrella to the V. cane (Fantasio).
I don't know, perhaps it suits you well for your act. Then you can make the cane that has disappeared appear again. Karl.-
*Magic has no reasons at all*
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