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Magic-Daniel Inner circle Denmark 1328 Posts |
I really love this routine, as much of the magic happens in the spectators hand.
I don't really like the ending though. Dosen't suit me and feel it's a bit of an anti climax. For the people that know this routine, could you suggest another ending that fits the routine nicely and is stronger than the first two phases? |
Justin W. Loyal user Kansas 237 Posts |
In one of his booklets, Sadowitz has a unique climax for Leipzig's Opener. This may be of interest.
Justin |
motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6127 Posts |
Gary Kurtz had an interesting take on this in his book Unexplainable Acts. I think it's called Wishful Thinking.
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harbour Loyal user 283 Posts |
Daniel, Why don't you feel the ending is apropriate?
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Magic-Daniel Inner circle Denmark 1328 Posts |
@Harbour
I just feel the last phase is the weakest, really. Also, the first two phases involves the spectators hand and the last doesn't. In the first two phases you have the card change and appear in their hand. In the last phase, you make their card appear, face up on top of the deck on the table. Just feel it's too weak and doesn't go "hand in hand" with the first two phases. |
Magic-Daniel Inner circle Denmark 1328 Posts |
To those who don't know the effect, here is a rough explanation:
Spectator chose a card. Card is lost in the deck. The selection is found by placing the deck face down (showing an indifferent card) on the spectators hand. In their palm the face down card changes to their card. You offer to do it again. A card is again choosen and lost in the deck. This time you find their card by placing your hand on top of the spectators and having the card penetrate your hand and falling on to the spectators. Now for John Carney's final phase. He has a new selection by the same spectator. He then tables the deck face down on the table. While covering the deck with one hand only for a second their card is now showing face up on top. The last phase I don't feel is a climax, because now the magic is out of their hands and I feel like we have a anti climax. I want the final phase to still happen in the spectators hand, or as least have a stronger impact than the first two phases, which I don't feel John's last phase has. Please brainstorm with me for a stronger and "in the same theme" finish:) Thanks, Daniel |
magicfish Inner circle 7006 Posts |
Magic Daniel, the "weak" ending you refer to is the one Mr. Carney refers to as Skinner's dazzling climax.
While you are certainly entitled to your opinion and free to alter the effect as you wish, have you considered why the greatest card man alive chose to end it that way? Have you performed it as described by Carney? |
mfeld Elite user San Francisco 457 Posts |
Well this would change the build of the routine pretty substantially, but I used to end a similar routine with a deck vanish.
1. Have the card change in their hand 2. Lose the card and have it appear in their hand 3. Have all the cards vanish except for the selection and its three mates in the deck. It's a pretty different routine, but climaxes don't get a lot stronger than a deck vanish.
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magicfish Inner circle 7006 Posts |
Perhaps I could rewrite your description of Skinner's ending:
For the final phase, the spectator returns the selection face up HIMSELF into the face down deck. The deck is placed on the table and the spectator is instructed to cover the pack briefly, raise his hand and snap his fingers- he does- nothing happens. The performer offers to try it. With an empty hand he covers the pack briefly, raises his hand and snaps his fingers and the selection appears face up on top of the pack. With presentation, misdirection, a mastery of the DPS and Vernon's Hand Washing with Klause's Half Moves, in my opinion, the third phase is a miracle, and without question the strongest phase. |
magicfish Inner circle 7006 Posts |
Sorry if I've derailed.
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magicfish Inner circle 7006 Posts |
It is simple, and very direct, but rather difficult.
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Justin W. Loyal user Kansas 237 Posts |
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With presentation, misdirection, a mastery of the DPS and Vernon's Hand Washing with Klause's Half Moves, in my opinion, the third phase is a miracle, and without question the strongest phase. It's indeed a miracle. But what makes it the strongest phase? To my mind, there's nothing stronger than the spectator effecting the change. Convince me. I like having my mind changed. Daniel, this is a simple fix, but have you considered reversing the structure of the routine? If you think it goes from strongest to weakest, why not just turn it on its head? It seems you'd have to do quite a bit of technical retweaking, but that's the fun part. Justin |
Magic-Daniel Inner circle Denmark 1328 Posts |
That's actually not a bad idea Justin!
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Engali Elite user 435 Posts |
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On 2013-04-13 18:31, mfeld wrote: I believe that is the exact ending Euan Bingham describes for the routine in his manuscript Free From Filler. |
ApprenticeWizard Regular user Charlottesville, VA 170 Posts |
I would end this with a version of the card to card box effect. A card is selected from a group of 5 cards. Spectator holds the group of cards between their hands and an empty card box is shown and placed on top of the spectator's upper hand. On your command the spectator names his selection and you make it apparently rise up through the spectator's upper hand and into the card box. With empty hands you show the spectator now holds only 4 cards, then take the card box, open it and remove the spectator's card.
Magically yours,
Tom Olshefski |
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