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Color Monte and all of its variations has entertained countless folks. Having done it for years I've never been happy with the push forward the middle card pull back the top card move. Are there alternatives?
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Sure use cards that are stripped.
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On 2013-07-16 22:18, plink wrote:
Color Monte and all of its variations has entertained countless folks. Having done it for years I've never been happy with the push forward the middle card pull back the top card move. Are there alternatives?


Plink,

I can't answer your question at this moment, but, I will research because I remember somewhere that there is a beautiful alternative to that move - I think it is in Ibidem but I'm not certain. I had worked out a way to do it when I was a demonstrator - because to be a demonstrator you have to learn Color Monte. But, it's been a while since I performed it. I will do some research and see what I can unearth. I am hopeful that our more scholarly members will chime in as well. Grrrrr!! It drives me crazy when I know the answer but cannot find it. Smile

Best,
Vlad
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Think Double pushover. Paul Wilson uses a sequence with this. Kosky published it in the Gen.
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I've seen some more advanced versions for the middle card, but I find the "push-pull" matches so well with my patter that I don't want to change it: "I didn't think there could be an X on the top or in the middle, but there was an X on top...".

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I don't try and hide the move. I draw attention to it. "If its not on the bottom then certainly it must be one of these 2" next line pause and look them in the eye (usually me looking up from the cards and at them is enough to get them to do the same) as you say "but as you can see...." All focus goes back to the cards but the next move is underway.
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I highly recommend Paul Wilson's "Gypsy Monte" sequence on his DVD called "Knock 'Em Dead". It is an alternative to the Christ-Anneman Alignment move that you are uncomfortable with (as are many people). Once you learn his handling, you will forget the one you are currently using.
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Garrett Thomas has a version which can be found on Inside the Mind of Garrett Thomas and on one of the Reel Magic Magazine issues.
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On 2013-07-21 20:30, aussiemagik wrote:
Garrett Thomas has a version which can be found on Inside the Mind of Garrett Thomas and on one of the Reel Magic Magazine issues.


It's in issue 17 of Reel Magic...

I assume that what puts people off about the Christ alignment move is having both hands together and doing a pull/ push action.. it looks a bit fiddly. What I do is, whilst pattering and my hand is by my side, obtain a pinkie break under the bottom card and pull back the top card about a cm. Then when the hands come together all I have to do is the second part of the alignment move.

Works for me!
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On 2013-07-20 03:48, ZoOpDoG wrote:
"If its not on the bottom then certainly it must be one of these 2"


I like this a lot and I think it makes a lot of sense.
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Plink,

I can't answer your question at this moment, but, I will research because I remember somewhere that there is a beautiful alternative to that move - I think it is in Ibidem but I'm not certain. I had worked out a way to do it when I was a demonstrator - because to be a demonstrator you have to learn Color Monte. But, it's been a while since I performed it. I will do some research and see what I can unearth. I am hopeful that our more scholarly members will chime in as well. Grrrrr!! It drives me crazy when I know the answer but cannot find it. Smile

Best,
Vlad


I am thinking either Kabbala or Hierophant. I lost my issues so I can't look it up. It involved holding the middle card back with the left thumb after pushing off the top card; then the left fingers ("as a unit") push off the bottom card into alignment with the top card; the card(s) are then taken with a stud-type turnover, shown, and flipped FD on top so you can now show the middle card as the same card. It's a Marlo handling of course.
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Derek Dingle also had a handling to avoid using the standard actions associated with the alignment move. Look in May 2004, the handling is in the routine for quick D-Way.

Also check out The Commercial Magic of JC Wagner. An alternative handling in the routine Tri-Mi-Way.
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Said this many times before. The alignment move just smacks of 'dodgyness personified' - particularly when used with three playing cards.

And just to add that despite one or two well-known card magicians from yesteryear claiming it as theirs, it actually started life as an envelope switch; and was created by a mentalist, named Burling Hull, way back in the early 1930's.
Barry Allen

Over 15 years have now passed - and still missing Abra Magazine arriving every Saturday morning.
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One might also consider using the Jack Merlin Double Deal mechanics from Expert Card Technique; with just three cards, it's not very difficult.
There are many tricks, and many effects, but rarely a Grand Effect. There are many entertainers, but few real magicians. Many technicians, but few artists who use their art to explore their vision. - Derren Brown, Absolute Magic
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