|
|
Hawkan Elite user Sweden 495 Posts |
Man...I can´t believe this happened. Last night two friends from when I grew up (70-80s) had a "Magic evening". They were into magic for a couple of years when we were boys, and I am the only one who has taken it up again since a couple of years. Anyway, after watching "Burt Wonderstone", in which the silk and TT is exposed, it was time to perform. I laughed to myself as I started with...yes, the vanishing silk. I mean, who was I trying to fool now?? And these guys are really, really smart. I couldn´t believe it when, after my little show, they had NO idea how that silk disappeared. I thought they were just pulling my leg so I asked if they didn´t remember the movie. But they just said "No way it was done like that". They had been looking for the TT, but didn´t see it and then thought the explanation in the movie was fake. So I think we can safely go on performing this for another couple of hundred years..
HÃ¥kan :wavey: |
Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Ja! Sure! Hawkan!
Once or twice in high schools, about 20 years ago, a couple of kids asked me if I had a "plastic thumb" I said, "NO, just regular skin and bone." They left "happy". You are absolutely correct. Prof. Herwin's little gadget will be around as long as people have manual appendages!
SNEAKY, UNDERHANDED, DEVIOUS,& SURREPTITIOUS ITINERANT MOUNTEBANK
|
bowers Inner circle Oakboro N.C. 7024 Posts |
I have to agree.
|
Ekuth Inner circle Floating above my 1538 Posts |
As long as you know how to handle the TT properly, exposure isn't a problem. Ammar has some good handling tips in his books and lecture notes.
I never worry about exposure, honestly. For every idjit with an I phone and YouTube, there's 30 more who have never seen the effect or would bother to look. I think a lot of magicians who worry about 'exposure' ruining the business are running when they aren't chased. Only magic buffs are going to be looking for method, anyway. The rest of the bunch are too busy watching the celebs making arses out of themselves or sharing cute cats. NEVER call your effect by it's proper name, though.
"All you need is in Fitzkee."
|
Motley Mage Special user 572 Posts |
I agree with ome amd all--and Ekuth hit the readon why. There will be dopes looking for how it's done while you are performing, but they are the exception. Be amazing & let folks be amazed.
|
Anatole Inner circle 1912 Posts |
This reminds me of the story of someone watching a magician who did the linking rings and later going up to the magician and saying that he got a set of rings in a magic kit once but they didn't work like the rings in the show he had just seen...
Or like the guy who sees you do an ambitious card routine and says, "I had a deck of TV Magic Cards, too!" ----- Sonny
----- Sonny Narvaez
|
DougTait Elite user Sebring, FL 492 Posts |
A very well-know magician who posts here often has a routine for sale that requires some manufacture. I watch the routine several times and couldn't figure out out he accomplished a certain switch in the routine. I purchased the routine for the rights to build the mechanism and he outlined the routine and casually mentioned that the switch is done with a TT. Duh! I bought my first TT over 50 years ago and must have a least a dozen laying around, but the thought never occured to me that the switch I was seeing was that simple.
I tell this as an example of how in the hands of an accomplished artist, the TT is invisible, even when in plain sight. If every spectator in an audience knew what a TT was, it wouldn't (shouldn't) detract from a performance in the hands of an accomplished artist. ("Pop' Haydn in this case)
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men [and women] to do nothing."
|
Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Resurrecting this thread, I would point out that I've seen too many stick out their thumb like a hitchhiker, and then do what I call the "little JACK HORNER move. WRONG!!!
When the clean hand approaches the dirty hand, the fingers and thumb are together. As the tips of the fingers touch the side of the dirty hand forefinger, the thmb is not in sight, and the thmb, can do what is necessary under cover of the clean hand fingers. Another handling: The Professor (Dai Vernon) would allow the loaded tt to tilt and further, allow the open end of tt to protrude between the dirty hand fingers. The clean hand could approach and the rt thmb had no problem doing what was necessary. The "other professor" (Herwin) knew what he was doing!
SNEAKY, UNDERHANDED, DEVIOUS,& SURREPTITIOUS ITINERANT MOUNTEBANK
|
mtpascoe Inner circle 1932 Posts |
I couldn´t believe it when, after my little show, they had NO idea how that silk disappeared. I thought they were just pulling my leg so I asked if they didn´t remember the movie. But they just said "No way it was done like that". They had been looking for the TT, but didn´t see it and then thought the explanation in the movie was fake. So I think we can safely go on performing this for another couple of hundred years..
Håkan :wavey: [/quote] Not all tricks work with this kind of scrutiny, but strange that the TT does. Sometimes when someone hears a secret, it sounds so stupid, they think it’s a bluff. When you think about it, it kind of does. The Linking Rings is different because that’s exactly how the spectator thinks it works. They just assume being professional, you are using a different method. I have done the Vanishing Silk at magic shops when the person buying knows the secret and I still blew their minds. This puzzled me so much. I make the steal long before they even notice it. I think that’s the crux of getting away with it is the time misdirection. If done correctly, you can do it over and over and it will still blow their minds. |
Hawkan Elite user Sweden 495 Posts |
There are a couple of good sources for learning to handle the TT, but I have to hoot a small horn for this one, very good:
http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/4985#reviews HÃ¥kan |
mtpascoe Inner circle 1932 Posts |
This is where I learned it, straight from Mr. Sherman himself. http://www.magicinc.net/takeatipfrommebyphilsherman.aspx
|
DaleTrueman Veteran user Australia 317 Posts |
Duane Laflin also has some very good TT handling techniques on his DVDs. I can't remember exactly which dvd but if anyone wants to know I will look it up.
I'm in agreement with Doug Tait above, I'm pretty sure I know the routine he's talking about and I also have purchased it. I had no idea a TT was involved until I got the video, now it's obvious lol. |
David Todd Inner circle 2328 Posts |
It's true , it's all in the handling , to throw anyone off the trail who knows about or suspects the TT .
Pat Page's DVD on TT has some great moves , and so does Alexander DeCova's "Examining The TT" DVD. Always one step ahead , with frequent ,natural, open display of the hands . The biggest thing to avoid is the rather obvious, crude move of jamming the thumb into the fist on the last poke . (the "Little Jack Horner" move as Dick Oslund mentions in his post above) . I cringe every time I see someone do that. |
Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Same with the Dye Tube. I have seen some ridiculous attempts. I've had to change up the routine a bit because of this.
Doug |
Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Yes! When I was 16, Senor MARDO graciously showed me the proper handling of a dye tube. That was in 1947. I've worn out a few dye tubes (silks, too!)since then, and, I've NEVER had anyone "catch" it.
SNEAKY, UNDERHANDED, DEVIOUS,& SURREPTITIOUS ITINERANT MOUNTEBANK
|
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Smooth as silk » » The old TT - exposure doesn't seem to be a problem - really (2 Likes) |
[ Top of Page ] |
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2024 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved. This page was created in 0.02 seconds requiring 5 database queries. |
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic. > Privacy Statement < |