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Michael Kamen Inner circle Oakland, CA 1315 Posts |
[quote]On 2003-12-23 23:51, Dave Egleston wrote:
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. . .I just went to Barnes & Noble--An almost daily exercise--two brand new paperback copies of THE AMATEUR MAGICIANS HANDBOOK, along with about 3 feet of various and sundry magic books. . . Interesting. In rebuilding my magic library over the last few years, I was not willing to consider a paperback edition, and the hardbacks were clearly out of print. Had to utilize their used book locator service to get a copy, although not the edition I would have preferred. Some paperbacks are very well done and perhaps I should not be so fussy.
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blindbo Special user Bucks County, PA 790 Posts |
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On 2003-12-23 23:51, Dave Egleston wrote: Yes, Dave. However, in reading this thread there are many interesting opinions and points being made (some of which took me much longer to understand, as my vocabulary was put in its place more than once). That's what I like about this club! |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Let's agree that the battle of the books was won by TV Guide and move forward.
I've posted an attempt at modernizing the premise behind the Miser's Dream routine. What are your sentiments towards: 1) Using the wand thing as a facetious pickpocket, pulling coins from audience members 2) Producing credit cards from thin air instead of coins? I guess this would lead to the stack of credit cards becoming a giant bill at the end I'd like to know if this has been done before and what your feelings are about how it might be received by a lay audience.
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Michael Kamen Inner circle Oakland, CA 1315 Posts |
The credit card and bill idea is very lovely as long as you let the inherent humor of the association speak for itself without presenting it as an object lesson. I have no idea if it has been done. Jeff Sheridan does a thing with producing mirrors, clearly a different theme. I do not have the performing experience to predict a lay audience's response, although I see no reason why not -- obviously responses may vary and how you pull it off is paramount importance. I do not like the pickpocket idea, but that's just me; too vignette-ish, or worse threatens to imitate Al Flosso's style too much.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
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On 2003-12-22 19:15, JonTown wrote: What book is that? The earliest book on magic I can find that was reprinted by Dover is Scot's Discovery of Witchcraft, and it is from 1584.
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truthteller Inner circle 2584 Posts |
Then there are those who intentionally misdate their works or borrow from others without credit, when had they asked their inspiration they could have pointed to the exact credits they could have looked for. Many young magicians do not value the history of the art up until the moment THEIR set of lecture notes was published. Also, I do not think many people see the difference between using someones idea and republishing it (without permission) in order to tack their name on to the trick with some minor variation in handling or presentation. Again, sad. Its a matter of values. When you haven;t had to labor long and hard for the creation of an idea, or spent hours researching to find a long overlooked gem, its easy to take from others and have no empathy for their pain.
Finally, not having a library is no excuse. If you want to learn magic then you need to invest in your tools. This is true of any art or any profession. In magic the two assets we posses are skill and knowledge. Skill is bought with time and practice. Knowledge with diligence and yes financial investments. I built a fairly large library when I was young not because I had money, I didn't, but by sacrificing for something important to me. Magic is an art to some and a hobby to many. Hobbies are supposed to be relaxing and fun. Art is work. (Notice I am not making the professional/amateur distinction here). The problem is too many hobbiests think themselves artists and are foisting themselves on the scene as such. |
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