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magic4545 Inner circle Jimmy Fingers 1159 Posts |
Looking for a lab or golden retriever/poodle mix, or something similar. Must be good with small dogs and kids.
In the Nevada/Arizona area. Thanks, Jimmy |
Bob1Dog Inner circle Wife: It's me or this houseful of 1159 Posts |
One of the kindest things you can do is visit your local shelter and adopt one. You'll be blessed for saving the life of an animal who will be devoted to you for the rest of its life. They know what fate awaits them. Trust me, they do.
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?
My neighbor rang my doorbell at 2:30 a.m. this morning, can you believe that, 2:30 a.m.!? Lucky for him I was still up playing my drums. |
stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
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magic4545 Inner circle Jimmy Fingers 1159 Posts |
Re-homing fees are atrocious... I am definitely going the rescue route here, but shelters are becoming big business, kind of like non-profits were a few years ago.
$400 fees where we are... might as well put the shelters in a mall! |
Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts |
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On 2013-11-27 02:34, magic4545 wrote: Especially if you want a specific breed. It's like each breed has it's own separate rescue service now and it is definitely big business. |
stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
I don't get it.
They're rescuing animals, then re-packaging them by breed, and essentially selling them by charging a rather high "fee" for processing the rescue? Never heard of this. Makes me kinda sad. |
Bob1Dog Inner circle Wife: It's me or this houseful of 1159 Posts |
I've heard of fees, and in fact paid $200 to adopt a border collie back in the nineties. I didn't have a problem with it because the money helped keep the shelter afloat. Someone as to pay for a shelter. But $400 does seem high. That's too bad. I'd still keep looking. Everyone, including me, who has had a shelter dog has been rewarded with their love and affection. And the dog was rewarded with life.
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?
My neighbor rang my doorbell at 2:30 a.m. this morning, can you believe that, 2:30 a.m.!? Lucky for him I was still up playing my drums. |
Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts |
Yes, there are groups that only re-home one single breed of dog. Any breed of dog you want just type in ____ (whatever breed) rescue and you will find organizations dedicated to that specific breed. They are usually very thorough with their interview process etc, and they usually get a high fee.
I'm not saying it's bad but it has become more specialized. There are still plenty of places that handle all sorts of dogs, but apparently more and more people want to be able to chooses what kind of dog they get, or more and more groups are dedicated to saving one type of dog. |
stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
Bob, they charge fees around here, for the reasons you suggest. But around $200--what you paid.
But breed-specific rescuing sounds like something like...oh, I dunno...selling used cars. It doesn't sound very rescue-like to me. Maybe it's not a bad thing. I just hadn't heard of it until now, so I'm not sure what to think. |
imgic Inner circle Moved back to Midwest to see 1339 Posts |
Any of the "doodle" mixes are very popular right now and hard to come by for reasonable price. We'd been looking for about a year, looking at various doodle rescue groups and never got one. We instead ended up with a group that rescues dogs from kill shelters and got a Maltese/Bichon friar mix. Smart as a whip, non-shedding and good (a bit shy due to limited socialization) with people. They contacted us again recently with another Maltese mix (with think with jack Russell) and they look like brothers.
Contact local rescue groups and ask them to keep eyes open. Also contact local breeders. My mother got a mini-golden doodle from a breeder at a great price. They kept the dog to breed but at a year old they realized she wasn't built for breeding so sold her.
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From my daughter's blog.
Quote: Today was one of those fantastic days where I just got to sit and think about how awesome my job really is. One of the main reasons is that I CAN NEVER STOP LEARNING!!!! Honestly, how many average jobs just keep on teaching? There’s only so many things you can learn about Mcdonald’s fries or t-shirts at Aeropostale. But me? I can go to work every day and learn at least one new thing EVERY TIME. I mean, how freaking cool is that??
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The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
Bob1Dog Inner circle Wife: It's me or this houseful of 1159 Posts |
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On 2013-11-27 13:08, stoneunhinged wrote: I'm appalled that one might have to pay $400 to rescue a mutt, which are some of the best dogs out there. I'd hate to think these shelters are trying to run a profit or make a market on the plight of poor discarded animals. It is sad.
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?
My neighbor rang my doorbell at 2:30 a.m. this morning, can you believe that, 2:30 a.m.!? Lucky for him I was still up playing my drums. |
Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts |
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On 2013-11-27 14:36, Bob1Dog wrote: I don't think most of them are. I have a sister who is borderline nutty about rescuing dogs. Any and all dogs. She will hop in her car and drive 7 or 8 hundred miles at the drop of the hat to get a dog that needs rescuing. She pours untold amounts of money in to vet bills, grooming, food, shelter etc (more than she can afford frankly). Shes had a dozen dogs at a time in her home. Now, I don't what she charges, or even if she charges, to place a dog. But I know a lot of the rescue outfits, particularly if they are a "no kill" outfit, do incur a ton of expenses. If you rescue a dog that is in need of a lot of medical attention, major grooming, rehab, etc. And take care of that dog for 6 months or a year before you can place it, I doubt you'd be making a dime at 400 bucks. Maybe not even at twice that much. Operations that truly rescue animals, and that will not put an animal down, can't lower their overhead by euthanizing animals like many shelters do. I think a lot of the outfits just hope to break even, or close to it. But I suppose there is a spectrum with outfits at both ends. |
Chrystal Inner circle Canada/France 1552 Posts |
Hi,
As a long time foster parent for 5 different reputable shelters and owner of a private animal sanctuary, I view this as an opportunity to educate as to why there are fees asked from shelters. An adopter pays the fee for the animal that has already been spayed/neutered, given Advantage or Revolution for flees, it has been dewormed and has (depending on it's age) been given the first 3 inoculations in the first few weeks of it's life or it's annual booster plus a rabies shot. Just those alone far surpass what you as a responsible owner would do with your pet in it's first year of life. A adoptee of a shelter animal just pays for it in advance ...simple as that. The shelters that don't charge higher fees do not do this but that's another rant. If the animal is young - shelters often give certificates in which the adoptee redeems at the time the animal is ready to be spayed/neutered and a free vet check within three days of purchase. Good shelters never let unfixed animals leave their shelters but have made sure those things are done beforehand. Again, if the animal is too young at the time then the shelter gives the certificate at the time of purchase. The adoptee has already paid for this in advance and this way the shelter is guaranteed the adopter will have it done. Now saying all that - a majority of these animals are strays and so their history is not known so the shelters in order to be responsible have to make sure that the animals are in a healthy state when they are adopted. Many come in with injuries, trauma, starvation , ect from their life on the street....this takes extra care and medication in order to make them healthy and adoptable. Others have broken limbs, jaws, pelvis, from accidents and need to have their surgery covered. These are the animals that are brought to me, for example, by the SPCA to foster...the injured, the sickly, traumatized, ect...(they do better with their recovery in private foster homes). Foster parents are not paid and with the exception of the SPCA with paid staff, the majority of rescues I foster for - not a single person is paid - all monies raised are for the animal's care. No one in rescue gets rich and it is not a money maker , nor should it be. In the meantime the meds, food and vet bills add up for the shelters and will never be recovered with their adoption fee. Many times the shelters don't recoup these losses but make it up with the very adoptable animals that arrive at their shelters that just need the inoculations, worming, flee med and may have already been fixed before they arrived. There are usually rescue groups for every recognized dog breed as a simple search will lead you to those in your area. However, don't be daunted as many of these group if out of your area have connections to a pony express of rescuers from an angel network with consist of truckers who sign up to help out, every day folks to even owners of small planes. Rescues just want the animal to go to the best home possible. These rescue groups have connections with others in other states or provinces that will do home checks to make sure you can provide a good home before an animal is rehomed to an adopter. Reputable groups have the connections usually while others that transfer animals for profit - don't care who adopts...these are the puppy mills or unscrupulous breeders. Never purchase a pup from a store as no matter how much they claim their pups come from good family homes - no reputable breeder will ever sell their pup in a store - period! If you do go to a reputable breeder - be prepared to be on a wait list and be grilled as to your background, housing situation, and ability to care for the animal for the rest of it's life. Should an emergency arise, a reputable breeder will take the animal back at any point in it's life and will have that in their contract. You can never "give' your purebred dog to another without permission from the original breeder. Non reputable breeders will not guarantee that as once, they have your money the life of their pup no longer becomes their concern. You also have to realize that the breed you want is not a purebred breed so finding a reputable breeder will be harder as purebred breeders have shown their dogs in the ring, have won championships and will only breed their dog once a year and usually only after the age of three once all genetic testing for hips, eyes, ect can be done accurately. Lastly, I mentioned that I also have a private sanctuary - For whatever reason, (usually due to health or age) after all means of having them adopted were exhausted by the shelters. Only then, did I adopt them as sadly the reality of shelters is there is always incoming and they must provide their limited resources to the new incoming animals and they are always incoming! Sadly many animals that are only a year old are euthanized due to lack of space. In some overcrowded shelters the animals (many of them pups or kittens) are euthanized shortly after they arrive as the supplies exceeds the demand. So I encourage all of you to please adopt an animal from a rescue or shelter. |
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