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Griff Loyal user Florida 285 Posts |
Does Todd logo his TT, and if so when did he start doing it? Thanks in advance.
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elainevblaine Regular user 140 Posts |
Uh oh. Sounds like another Frank deal on ebay may be rearing it's ugly head.
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Daniel Clemente Special user Mount Joy, PA 790 Posts |
Not sure when he started doing it, but on my Walking Liberty TT from Todd, it has "Lassen" stamped on it
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Bobby Puga Loyal user El Centro, CA 201 Posts |
My Kennedy TT has Todd's "LASSEN" stamp on the outter shell... Not sure when he started stamping them either...
Customized greatly...
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aceofspades71 New user 73 Posts |
My Lassen soft morgan and copper crowns (both TTs)have LASSEN stamped on outer shells.
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BanzaiMagic Inner circle 1339 Posts |
The Lassen hallmark has been on his sets since at least the beginning of 2007:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/searc......=4874675 The current hallmark is different from the first hallmark which was simply "LASSEN". |
BanzaiMagic Inner circle 1339 Posts |
It's a shame we have to keep track of this now, but as Elainevblane says, there is a known problem with counterfeit Lassen coins, which is a particular problem with the earliest Lassen sets such as U3F (none of which are hallmarked - and some of which were poorly made by Thomas Wayne).
The counterfeiting problem is unfortunately a constant worry now - see here: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......m=202&48 I recently bought a U3F from one of the nicest of guys here on the Café (goes by the name "Chessman") who put up with me making him trace it's lineage back to the previous owner and then back to Lassen. A hassle which should be unnecessary, but nowadays ... |
Joni River New user 37 Posts |
Lassen commercial coins have a stamp too,not "LASSEN" but "L.C.C.N"(Lassen commercial coins &novelties).
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts |
I recently bought a 2nd hand TTGF-O, (lucky me). I could tell it was Todd's work, but it took a bit of cleaning to find the hallmark. Even then, and I knew what I was looking for, I needed a magnifying glass to properly make it out, as the set has clearly had much use, although in immaculate condition.
To Griff, the O.P., the hallmark in Todd's work is very small and precise. But the work is what really distinguishes it. I'm not going to get into anything about Jamie Schoolcraft, as I have never owned anything by him, but I do know that the 3T, [which came first, of course] is different from the 3CM, for example. Todd uses an exp [, then a regular [, then a milled down insert. Schoolcraft starts with a regular [, then a cut down [, then an insert which has been referred to by some as "wafer thin". Basically, if you have seen a Lassen 3T, you will be able to identify another one without looking at the hallmark. |
jmagic Regular user 107 Posts |
If someone makes a counterfeit coin set, They can surly couterfeit the hallmark.
So you can't tell from the mark. It does not prove anything. |
tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts |
Yep. And you can tell a Lassen set.
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
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On 2013-12-05 11:46, tomsk192 wrote: Xavier Belmont does exactly the same and to perfection with beautiful pure sterling silver heavy 50 Francs coins and also with 10 Francs coins (1mm less in diameter than a Barber but a much nicer coin)
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elainevblaine Regular user 140 Posts |
Caught red handed. You heard it here first folks. XB is now making Lassen's Triple Threat. Thanks for the info Larry.
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Tom Fenton Inner circle Leeds, UK (but I'm Scottish) 1477 Posts |
Oh Lord...
"But there isn't a door"
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afinemesh Inner circle Senseless gibberish that amounts to 2621 Posts |
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On 2013-12-08 14:08, Tom Fenton wrote: Well put, Tom. Impossible to have a decent conversation (about anything, it seems) without it turning into a bashing session with four or five of the (same old) regular protagonists! You know who you are. . .
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
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On 2013-12-08 10:31, elainevblaine wrote: Sorry Todd In Disguise but, depite what you try and pretend, you have not been the first one to think of putting an expanded shell over a milled shelled coin. It was in print before you were even born... So yours is very nice and counterfeiting by selling products under your name when it's not true is unarguably a condemnable fraud indeed. You are fully right to complain about it and, for that, you will get my full support. But the way you put it is misleading: even if your work on this is impeccable as well, to the best of my knowledge you never did this old idea predating J B Bobo with 10 and 50 French Francs sterling silver coins. So you cannot again bash at other craftsmen for producing something different and not of a nature to create any confusion with your own work when your own work, produced admittedly with precious coins as well (but different ones), wasn't original in the first place. Any one can read as late as in Bobo that both types existed even before his writing about them, and do you claim as a technical invention to put an expanded shell over the traditional milled coin shell? Where is the novation you claim? Who's been caught red handed in using a fair claim to infer a false one?
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elainevblaine Regular user 140 Posts |
Woah, Triple Threat was in Bobo? I must have missed that. And um, sorry Larry, Triple Threat is a bit more than just a shell over a coin, as you well know. You are a master at confusing facts.
And I guess everyone here that is tired of your useless rants, is Todd. Why not spend some of your 8.2 billion dollars and get a life? |
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