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General_Magician Special user United States 707 Posts |
I found this article on the most stressful jobs for 2014. Here is a caption from the article and if you click the link, you will see the 10 top ranked stressful jobs:
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Stress—gaaaaaaaah! It's everywhere these days. And nowhere do we get more stressed out than at work. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-most-s......892.html I would definitely agree with it's top two rankings, especially the number 1 ranked and I am sure the top two spots probably ranked the top two for several years past. I also see that police officer made the top 10 as well, which is not surprising but I think at least for the year 2014 it should be ranked either 3rd or 4th, because I know being a police officer is pretty stressful. After the war in Afghanistan has winded down, I am sure police officer probably should occupy at least the top 3 maybe even be 1st or 2nd (and I think it should currently occupy the 4th or 3rd spot).
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
I'm sure policing is stressful. However, at least in the years I drove a yellow cab in NYC, there were more in the line of duty killings of taxi drivers than police officers.
But even given that, the years that I taught full time in an inner city urban high school were more stressful (and more rewarding) than the cab driving. I find it laughable that senior corporate executive is on that list. Golden parachutes weighing them down? Pockets filled with the stolen pensions of their workers making it hard to make a quick getaway? Hard to make those decisions about which jobs to move overseas? Similarly to compare the stress a soldier goes through with the stress of a general is ludicrous. How many generals have given their lives for their country? How many generals had their houses foreclosed when they got back home? How many generals got denied medical benefits even though they were suffering from Agent Orange poisoning?
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General_Magician Special user United States 707 Posts |
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I'm sure policing is stressful. However, at least in the years I drove a yellow cab in NYC, there were more in the line of duty killings of taxi drivers than police officers. I guess I learn something new every day. I would have thought cab driving would be more stressful than being an inner city high school teacher but experience would dictate otherwise in your case. I also had no idea that the death rate for cab drivers was high. I mean, I could see where it could be dangerous, but I didn't know a lot of cab drivers lose their lives doing their job. Quote:
I find it laughable that senior corporate executive is on that list. Golden parachutes weighing them down? Pockets filled with the stolen pensions of their workers making it hard to make a quick getaway? Hard to make those decisions about which jobs to move overseas? Yes a lot of big corporations are like this and I can't argue with you when it comes to some of the big corporations. However, being a business owner is a lot of responsibility and it's not easy turning a profit. I am speaking from a perspective of a small business owner. Of course, I still think being an inner city high school teacher or cab driver would be more stressful though than a small business owner. Quote:
Similarly to compare the stress a soldier goes through with the stress of a general is ludicrous. How many generals have given their lives for their country? How many generals had their houses foreclosed when they got back home? How many generals got denied medical benefits even though they were suffering from Agent Orange poisoning? I can't argue with you there. I would also add "How many generals faced divorce and all the money they got paid on deployment cleaned out of their bank account after coming back home from a tough deployment?" Or "How many generals had to live in a hotel room or worse, homeless after coming home from a tough deployment or being discharged from service during a time of war?" I guess my last one would fall under your category of having their houses foreclosed on.
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
I know several pilots (including one in the U.S. Air Force), all of whom are happy go lucky guys who love what they do, and are just about the least stressed out people I know. So airline pilot at #4 seems out of place to me.
Besides which, if pilots are stressed then what about air traffic controllers and why are they not on the list?
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General_Magician Special user United States 707 Posts |
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On 2014-01-09 00:24, balducci wrote: I thought the same thing when I saw airline pilot on the list. I know an airline pilot at my magic club and he doesn't seem stressed and he seems like a happy guy. Doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have a stressful job though. I vaguely remember talking to some airline pilots in the past several years ago and it didn't seem like they spoke about their job as if it was a stressful job and they seemed to really like it. But then again, I have never been an airline pilot either, so I haven't walked in their shoes.
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cricketer15 Loyal user Sydney, Australia 248 Posts |
Surprise mcdonalds staff aren't on there?
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Yes. It's also important to remember that there is also a lot of stress in a job caused by low wages, job insecurity, low levels of autonomy, dysfunctional organization, and places with insane bosses. I would throw in the following jobs: fast food worker, migrant fruit picker, construction worker, slaughter house worker, waiter/waitress, un-unionized factory worker, EMTs, and bicycle messengers.
GM, I drove a cab in the late 70s in NYC, when the crime rate was very high. Cab drivers were targets as we had cash, were alone, and remember this is a time before cell phones, so we often had no communication with anyone. There were stupid drivers who got killed as a result of bad driving, but I'm not even talking about that--drivers got shot by passengers. I had the pleasure of having an 8" blade held to my throat. Balducci, I am also surprised that air traffic controller is not on the list. That used to be listed as number one for many years in some lists of this sort.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
I agree with landmark. The 70s was a very dangerous time for cab drivers; drivers are much safer today.
If they are defining stress only to include what happens while you're on duty, I can see how being an executive could be quite stressful. If you include life stress, then surely low-wage earners with children must be near the top of the list. Without being overly sentimental, consider the single parent with a low-wage job, who cannot afford decent transportation. Work time plus travel time = time apart from your child/ren. Out-of-school care is an expense, even if subsidized. Activities for your child/ren are a luxury you will have to make considerable sacrifices for. The stress of working, coupled with the constant stress of caring for your child and the time pressures that come from a modest income must be deeply stressful.
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
I did some cab driving and firefighting. Both are dangerous jobs. I almost got killed doing both. I wouldn't want to be a cop, either.
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MobilityBundle Regular user Las Vegas/Boston 120 Posts |
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On 2014-01-08 22:42, landmark wrote: Two things: 1. It's real easy to be cynical about folks you don't know. In my job, I deal with corporate executives routinely, and many of them live and die with their company. Even if they're well compensated personally, many of them internalize the company's struggles. (That's part of what makes them good at their job.) Companies constantly live in fear for their existence. You can be top of the world one minute, and rapidly circling the drain the next minute. Research in Motion (the folks behind the Blackberry) is a pretty good, recent example of this. From 2003ish to 2008, they all but had the smartphone market cornered. By 2010, they almost completely lost the consumer sector to iPhones and Android devices, and were rapidly losing ground in the business sector. By 2013, devastating misstep after misstep, it's just a question of who's going to pick the carcass clean. The corporate executives *I* know are not arrogant, back-slapping, cigar chomping fat cats. (Those are the corporate *lawyers* I know!) They're equal parts passionate about their work, and terrified about what the future holds. 2. Stress is based on subjective feelings, not objective ones. In other words, "rich people problems" are still problems, if that's how they're perceived. So yeah, if you take a corporate executive who spends 200 nights a year on the road in five-star hotels, you might think that sounds awesome, but he might just want to go home to his family. Or, from yet another angle, if you take someone who is truly broke, they might scoff at this list entirely. They might wonder whether a "stressful job" is an oxymoron, because they'd gladly kill to have any job. Important to note that stress is about subjective feelings, not objective ones. Said another way, "rich people problems" are still problems, if that's how they're perceived. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
It is easy to declare other peoples jobs not stressful.
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arthur stead Inner circle When I played soccer, I hit 1773 Posts |
I was always under the impression that Postal workers were among the most stressed-out employees. Especially the "back-room" folks.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Yea I never got that. All the houses are numbered for pity sake. AND IN ORDER! They don't move or anything.
It is not like they hand you a letter and say "find Mrs. Johnson...GO!".
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
My guess is that it's like many low-paying assembly-line jobs. Stressful, repetitive, undignified and unrewarding.
Sweatshop workers probably don't go home feeling wonderful about their self-fulfillment at work.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
So postal workers are low paid?
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On 2014-01-09 12:57, Dannydoyle wrote: Lol! Good line.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On 2014-01-09 13:56, Dannydoyle wrote: I'm guessing that sorters don't have vacation properties in the Caribbean. But I could be wrong. A quick google search comes up with $49k, which is probably a couple of thousand below the median US family income. So full time workers are not "low paid". But they aint rich either.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On 2014-01-09 12:34, Dannydoyle wrote: Agreed, that most people's jobs are much more complicated and involved that those of us not doing it know. If you look back at the countless pages of posts about cops you'll see that while I may criticize a particular cop's actions from time to time, I never make a sweeping statement about the job itself. It's a very tough job. But really, I have problems with the super rich who not only want to rip off their workers, but then want to be called heroes as well. The guys at Blackberry may be going down the drain tomorrow, but the execs will be getting their bonuses nonetheless, while the average worker will get kicked to the curb being told that s/he is not a priority creditor. I think MB makes a fair point that stress is subjective--but I sure am not going to feel any sympathy based on someone else's whine-y distorted view of their position in life.
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts |
Too bad parenting probably wasn't considered. Especially being the parent of a teen.
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
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On 2014-01-08 22:42, landmark wrote: If being VP of Product Development for a large corporation could be considered senior corporate executive, then I've been both a senior corporate executive and an enlisted military person. I found my time as the VP about 100 times more stressful than my time as an enlisted army non-com. (Of course, while in the military, I was fortunate to never have to serve on the front lines of any war.) |
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