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kekoa1 New user 84 Posts |
Terrible Wizard...The Mark Wilson book is a good start for beginners. And some might perform the effects exactly as described in his book. As for how many pro's perform those same effects straight out of the book...my guess is not many. That's kind of like asking how many professional piano musicians play "chopsticks" in their sets? The way I see it...the tricks in that book are designed for the beginner...to get them started. Eventually, I'm sure they move on to more advanced effects as they grow as magicians. It is a good book though.
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Terrible Wizard Inner circle 1973 Posts |
Fair enough kekoa.
But couldn't a case be made for offering beginners 'working' magic at a suitable level? The Wilson book is quite overwhelming in its scope for the beginner, and yet even after going through much of it you'd still not have much professional level magic. A number of general purpose magic courses seem to fall into the same trap. I'm beginning to think that a better course might be accessible, yet specific, texts for specific items/props. For example, maybe a beginner who was interested in cards would be better served by the RRTCM and Griffin's Complete Card Magic DVD rather than Wilson's or Johsua Jay's Introduction Courses? Or if someone was interested in rope magic then Fiber Optics might be a better place to start than Wilson. That said, though, I'm glad that Wilson is on my shelf as it really does offer a comprehensive overview and is good value for money in that sense. However, if someone wanted to know the shortest route from A to B, beginner to pro, I'm not sure that Wilson would be more than a reference tool. Then again, I'm no pro - so this is all hot air, really. |
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kekoa1 New user 84 Posts |
Terrible Wizard...I totally agree with you. The Wilson book is a bit overwhelming for someone just starting out...although a lot of information and diverse effects...there should be something in there the beginner can digest and learn from.
As far as someone just wanting to learn cards...you are on the right track...RRTCM is a great resource for the beginner. As would someone that wishes to learn just coins would fair a great deal from let's say David Roth's material. I think it all depends on what that person starting out is drawn to and their skill level. Even though the Wilson book isn't all glitz and glitter...kind of boring in my mind...it's still a good place to test the waters. If I wasn't familiar with basic rope magic...and dove straight into Fiber Optics for the first time...not knowing how to add patter...or angle issues...or how to routine an effect...then I'm not sure the true beginner would be able to easily get through that particular routine...although it is a whole lot cooler to watch then "here's a long length of rope...watch as I find the middle and bring it up to the top...now watch as I take this pair of scissors and cut the rope...and now it is restored!". I really feel that every magician has to find their own road...go through a lot of different material and references before they can narrow down what truly makes them excited to learn. It's just a learning process that most magicians will have to go through in my opinion. |
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D.J. Ayur Regular user 101 Posts |
It's important to look through everyone's opinion, as we all have our own preferences and what not. All the info you guys are posting are very helpful!
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
You might even want to check out Harry Lorayne books.
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
http://www.harrylorayne.com http://www.harryloraynemagic.com |
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D.J. Ayur Regular user 101 Posts |
Mhm! Indeed, I was glady informed your Close-up magic books were insightful to say the least!
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hashtagmagic Regular user 140 Posts |
Dj Ayur, your name brings me great joy.
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Big Sam Regular user Florida 164 Posts |
DJ
The best advice I ever got was to get out there and perform. Find a place to bomb (we all do) and go for it. You'll make mistakes and these can be the best learning experiences of all time. Many of the resources listed in this thread have simple, easy-to-master tricks. Practice these until you've got them down cold and then get in front of an audience. Nothing can teach you how to perform better than experience. And, as soon as the performance is done, find a quiet area to take notes on how it went and how you'll do it differently next time. And then get out there and do it again (and again, and again . . .) Good Luck! Sam
Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
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ymumagic Regular user 131 Posts |
Hey DJ,
Someone mentioned it before, I just wanted to add that Michael Ammar's "easy to master card miracles" DVD set is what changed me from the little kid with the cheap magic sets to the professional that I am now. I still perform plenty of his material Best of luck! |
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frankvomit Elite user 485 Posts |
And his money miracles set as well!
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dannywu New user 26 Posts |
For great mentalism, pick up the Osterlind Mind Mysteries DVDs
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