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vootrage Regular user 105 Posts |
I was thinking about putting an invisible thread effect into my act. In Previous times I have used the Fearson hookup to do things such as float lifesavers.
I would like to know some things though- -What is the BEST thread effect? (Little setup) -What is the best hookup? -Can an ITR be used as a dispenser so that I would be able to do things, say, using the Fearson hookup. It doesn't automatically act like a reel does it? I know that these are basic questions but I appreciate you honest opinions. THANKS. |
silverfire9 Veteran user Rochester Hills, MI 323 Posts |
I don't think there is such a thing as the "best" thread effect; it's all dependent on your act and personality. Not to mention ability, etc. Same with the hookups. Different hookups enable different things, but to get the best results out of one, you need to spend a lot of time with just that one.
Yes, an ITR can be used in several of the popular hookups (if not all of them). For the Fearson hookup, however, it might be best to make a brake for the ITR. If all you want is a dispenser, though, that you can have on you, and that makes carrying around the IT easier, you might want to try Z-Webs. It's a dispenser, not an ITR, so it might fit your needs better. http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=358 (Z-Webs) |
BobbyJ New user Tucson, Az 48 Posts |
For some very good IT hookups and effects I suggest you get Micheal Ammars "Easy to Master Thread Miracles". A 3 volume set with a plethora of information. As for the best effect or hookup, I agree with silverfire9. It depends on your style and ability. BobbyJ
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Jaxon Inner circle Kalamazoo, Mi. 2537 Posts |
I agree with all that has been said here already. The "Best" IT trick is really a matter of preference and style. Some tricks are more practical than others are though.
The two marketed effect I suggest everyone who's interested in IT work pick up are Fearson's Floating Cigarette (Or area51 from his site) and Kevin James Floating Rose video. Both are excellent sources for IT tips and hook ups. I really suggest anyone who's interested in IT works to pick up an ITR. Because with it you can perform IT tricks any time and anywhere the conditions are right. This will allow you more opportunity to practice and gain the confidence needed to work with IT. Confidence is important with IT work because you really have to make them believe it's magic. Some people like to see magicians do sleight of hand and they appreciate the time and effort it must have taken to do those things (WE know better in some cases.) With IT work, it can't be explained with sleight of hand. So we need that confidence to be able to present it as real magic, even when it's presented humorously. The Z-web silverfire9 mentioned is great. You'll only be able to pull out about 5 feet lengths but most close up IT effects rarely need more then that. Good luck and have fun with IT! Ron Jaxon |
MJ Marrs Inner circle Los Angeles 1124 Posts |
Hey Jaxon,
What size ITR do you recommend? Thanks buddy! MJ |
jimisolo Regular user League City, TX 110 Posts |
I would like to throw John Leclair's Who's Afraid of Invisible Thread out there. Good stuff, highly recommended.
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Jaxon Inner circle Kalamazoo, Mi. 2537 Posts |
I recommend the middle sized ITR (The Micro). It's the one that's about 4 inches long. My next choice would be the super micro (Or the thread boss). The tension on these is often a little stronger then the larger ones. For basic levitations the smaller ones are just fine. I just like a little less tension when doing some of the more advanced ITR tricks because they give me more control. I like to be able to control it by moving my body or hands. If there is too much tension then the ITR will pull on the IT by itself before I want it to.
I hope that makes sense. Ron Jaxon |
MJ Marrs Inner circle Los Angeles 1124 Posts |
Jaxon-
That makes lots of sense. Thanks! MJ |
Daniel Faith Inner circle Neenah, Wisconsin 1526 Posts |
Michael Ammars IT dvd's are very good.
Peki's art of floating is also good.
Daniel Faith
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newguy Elite user 411 Posts |
The best magician who uses thread as a secret device is Gaetan Bloom.
The reason is because he always uses the thread indirectly. Never to animate, float or levitate an object. He will fool you, tell you the method was thread, and you will still have no idea how he could have acomplished the effect. That is a magical use of thread. |
Jason Bay Regular user Seattle, WA 117 Posts |
Jamy Ian Swiss has a manuscript called "Theurgical Thread" that gives a nice new setup and presentation for the age-old "ring on wand(/pencil/pen/etc)" effect.
The effect is that you borrow a finger ring, and slide it onto a pencil that you are holding vertically with your hand at the bottom. Using the Power of Your Mind, you cause the ring to slowly and eerily travel up the pencil and back down several times. To finish, the ring travels right off the end of the pencil and falls into the owner's open hand (proving that no threads are attached). It's a strong effect with a good routine provided by Jamy. I recommend it to anybody, but it's especially nice for beginners because of the good angles on the IT (read: very safe). |
Sk8rDave Regular user California 189 Posts |
Here's an easy to work with hook up that was natural with the pager ITR. I wouldn't recommend the pager ITR because it had some drawbacks but instead use the super micro. The thread boss doesn't have enough tension for this particular hook up to work for me.
The ITR is about waist level, with the pager it's on your belt but with a super micro it can be anywhere around that level, even coming out through button fly jeans. The wax is attached around neck level, like to the top button of your shirt or across your body to your shoulder like Losander does with the elastic thread. When you want to get into thread effects you hook one hand under the thread and when you want to get out you release it. This is particularly good for floating a ring and letting it drop into a spectator’s hand. Same thing with a bill. If you bend the bill and hang it over the thread you can release and let it drop at your whim. If you crumble the bill around the thread you gain more control but have to unhook. This hook up is nice because it's out of the way and completely self contained when you don't want to use it but you've got a lot of freedom to work with it and use it for different effects. You can't walk away from the floating bill but at the same time there's no chance that anyone is going to walk through your hook up. I hope that was clear enough. Good luck, Dave |
perlimpinpin Regular user 101 Posts |
Hi vootrage,
I am not a thorough thread user, but there are a couple of tricks I do with thread. Levitations are obviously VERY strong, and they are also very 'hot' (in terms of the risk of being caught). So if you want to start with a powerful thread effect while minimizing heat, I would recommend the Haunted Deck (chosen card magically emerges from the dedck after being fairly lost in it). I think Eugene Burger describes it in one of his books. This effect uses thread pretty indirectly. I have several products on IT including the Ammar DVDs and the LeClair book (a have to have in my opinion). I also have a booklet by Finn Jon on ELASTIC IT, which offers other possibilities. My question to the rest of you is : how do you find the other works on the subject (Peki, Wichman, et al.) compare to Ammar's and LeClair's products ? (especially regarding effects, routines, hook-ups and so on). Regards Daniel |
Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Get the Losander copy of Genii magazine. There you will find two great thread effects, and they are simple.
Of course you could buy Esoteric from http://www.stevensmagic.com :kermit:
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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