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Torquay22 Loyal user 271 Posts |
Hi guys I was wondering about how you go about creating you magic sets. The main point I was wondering about was do you link your tricks or do you just say "would you like to see another" and then do a completely different effect.
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
That depends on if they connect directly or not. Often you can make a transition based upon your character alone. Look for the logical path.
~michael baker
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Poof-Daddy Inner circle Considering Stopping At Exactly 5313 Posts |
It doesn't make a lot of sense to vanish a silk (via TT) then do ACR and end with sponge bunnies. Although they are all great effects, they just don't flow (in that context). A simple approach to three tricks A nice card opener (Red Hot Mama for example) followed by a non gaffed effect (maybe Twins or TTA & DD's Last Trick) then close with ACR. that way there is a strong open and close plus a logical buildup.
You don't really "have to" stay in the same genre (all cards) you could do the first two examples then close with a nice 3-fly (or HH's) Same logic and buildup.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
What is your logical build up again poof daddy?
I mean who cares gaffed or not? That is a distinction ONLY in the mind of a magician. I could EASILY tie those three tricks together and have them make sense in that order. Once a magician finds out that the tricks are not the magic and they are all things are possible. Once magicians start to realize we are paid for our skills with people and not with objects magic will take a quantumleap forward. Not directed at you poof daddy just a thought on tying things together. The tricks are not relevant. The magician is the unifying factor or at least should be.
Danny Doyle
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Chamberlain Special user 629 Posts |
I just came back from a wedding. 2 hours reception magic, this is what I performed for practically every group:
Crazy Mans Handcuffs Invisible Deck Sponge Bunnies 2 Card Transpo (2 selections, not a monte routine) Ambitious Card to Wallet with an Omni Deck Finish There was no real logical flow at all for those effects, I just jumped straight into each effect e.g "that was sleight of hand, let me try some sleight of mind, some mind reading" (my transition for cmh > invisible deck), all different effects but all of which always get great reactions! I'd rather add in a random sponge bunnies routine which I know they will love than continue my card act with twisting the aces instead. We owe it to our audience to show them our best effects which they will enjoy, not which we think sticks to some overall trick flow. (I realise this is a different case for stage shows etc, but this is the strolling part of the Café) |
David Fillary Special user 662 Posts |
I think having entirely different effects makes the performance more memorable. They will remember seeing rubber bands penetrate right before their eyes, their signed card appearing on the top of the deck and then the deck turning to a glass block, and then a bunny appeared in THEIR HAND! A short line to connect them seems enough.
Michael Ammar on the tonight show (www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqYdfqda5LY) does this amazingly. I haven't seen it in a while, but I distinctly remember him producing "Haley's Comet" and making it disappear, making a borrowed note levitate really convincingly, and doing the roll over aces to a stopwatch, with a brilliant gag before where he shuffles the deck multiple times before "remembering" that he should take it out the box first! He uses a line of patter to vaguely link them, but that is all. Then he can move on to other lines that entertain. The performance is a masterpiece of what routining should look like in my opinion. |
Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Yes! When I was a teenager, vaudeville, though dying, was still (barely) alive. Night clubs, in the cities, were flourishing. Both venues provided work, but, they wanted relatively short acts. Ten minutes! Fifteen was long!
Most of the magic magazines,that I could get my hands on, seemed to stress the "linking" of effects. Cigarette was produced. It changed to a billiard ball. The ball,after a fourish--was perhaps multiplyed to four balls. One of the balls changed to a length of rope, and the rope was cut & restored, etc....... Or, the whole act was done with silks, which changed color, had knots which disappeard, and finally were blended into one big silk..... Well, I tried doing that, BUT, there was no vaudeville or night clubs in my home town in Northern Michigan. I had only seen a few magicians, and they did 45=50 minute school assembly programs (and, they did NOT "link" the tricks). The PTA meetings, and Lions Club Ladies Nights wanted a 30 minute program. At first, I TRIED to "link" the effects, but soon gave up. I followed the example of the school magicians that I had seen. I learned that the writers in the magazines noted above, were writing their own personal philosophy. --And, it became obvious that they had a rather narrow view! Yup! See the posts above, Michael, Danny, and David have already said it very well.
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