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sanjuro New user 2 Posts |
Hello all:
I've been working on my multiple lifts, specifically the LJ snap double. Seeing Daryl use it convinced me to try it out and it's been the most "accurate" double lift I've tried. I do have a few questions on the double that I was hoping to get some guidance on: 1) How loud of a snap is it when you push down? When I see Daryl use it, it seems so much more quiet than when I do it. Is the snap meant to be softer, lest it tip off the move? 2) When I replace the cards face down after showing them, they don't necessarily go back perfectly square with the rest of the pack (I outjog them first, then push back with my left index finger). I usually have to run my right thumb and finger along the front and back edge to clean up each time before trying it again. Does that sort of action look suspicious or am I overthinking it? Will practicing eventually correct the replacement? 3) My practice routine has been: - Triple lift, put indifferent card in pile - Double lift, put indifferent card in pile - Single lift, put card I've been showing in pile And continue through the pack, each time trying to make the lift look the same. Do you think this is a good way to practice or would anyone recommend another approach? Thanks in advance for your help! - Chris |
Zephury Elite user Hollywood, FL 488 Posts |
The way you practice is the same way that I do with a pinky count and Vernon's. I don't think there could be any better way of practicing it. I don't do the snap though, so no comment on that. Good luck though!
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David Martin Regular user East Lyme, CT 118 Posts |
Hello Sanjuro! These are some opinions of mine, not facts. Please don't take what I say as an insult either. I'm just going to be honest.
1) I believe a loud snap might get the attention of your audience, but I doubt that it tips off anything. I would say that's just a matter of performance style and personal preference. 2) I believe everything you describe in this step is an example of "running while not being chased". You shouldn't worry about a snapping sound tipping this off, because you are blantently telegraphing that you are doing a move and that you are nervous about something. Again, no disrespect, but if you were to turn over a card for real, would you run your right thumb and finger along the front and back edge to clean up? I think in addition to learning the mechanics of a sleight, it is equally as important to think about what it is you are trying to simulate. I would try to eliminate those bad habits that you described from your practice time; even if that means starting all over again. Practice is always a good thing, but it is possible to practice a move the wrong way for so long, that it just becomes second nature to do it badly. Sorry for my brutally honest reply, I don't mean to offend. It's hard not to come off sounding like a jerk, through brutally honest text. I want you to succeed and I believe this is good advice I'm giving you. 3) That will be a good practice routine once you break those habits. Sanjuro, I don't know everything. I'm not a know-it-all. I have though, been studying magic for around 16 years and I am a self-proclaimed card guy. I really love the pasteboards. Please, don't hesitate to PM me on here with any questions about double lifts or anything else you might be curious about. Don't be afraid to ask me. If I don't know an answer to a question, I will be honest about that as well. Good luck in your quest to perfect this sleight and welcome to The Magic Café. David |
BWind Loyal user Honolulu, Hawaii 260 Posts |
Dear Sanjuro,
I started using the Jenning's "snap" DL as loud as possible; not anymore. I now perform the move as quietly as possible because triples sound way different from doubles and singles(non DLs)are also way different as well. Just my opinion ....... snap away as loud as you like ........ don't let my opinion sway ya; I just prefer to hide the move/skill as much as possible. Best regards, BWind |
sanjuro New user 2 Posts |
Thanks so much for the replies.
I've been working on not straightening the pack and keeping the snap as quiet as possible. It was definitely a struggle at first, but is getting easier with practice. Thanks again everyone! |
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