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John Born Veteran user 390 Posts |
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On Oct 30, 2014, Slim King wrote: This is just a discussion. No one is stealing, or intends to steal, anything. JB |
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DynaMix Inner circle 1148 Posts |
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On Oct 30, 2014, Genie Gene wrote: How strangely arrogant... Speaking for the thread and its members like you're some kind of authority. Hilarious. |
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DynaMix Inner circle 1148 Posts |
John it sounds like you have a way to get this app out without stepping on anyone's toes.
Will we see it finally hit the App Store? |
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magicmarcuk Elite user 454 Posts |
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On Oct 30, 2014, John Born wrote: Whilst I disagree with you, you have every right to voice your opinion. But there's no need to be condescending. Quote:
On Oct 30, 2014, John Born wrote: All of this talk about magic moving forwards, but what worries me is that some seem to be saying that all input methods have already been used, and one should choose which to use for their own effect as if selecting from a catalogue. It's clearly paradoxical: "we shouldn't bother creating new input methods in order to keep pushing the envelope and advancing the art of magic". Sure, a new effect advances magic, but after devising a premise does that mean your next step is to automatically look to existing methods rather than be creative for the workings too?
I make magic apps, such as WikiTest, Earworm, ISO, Inertia Pro and Xeno.
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John Born Veteran user 390 Posts |
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All of this talk about magic moving forwards, but what worries me is that some seem to be saying that all input methods have already been used, and one should choose which to use for their own effect as if selecting from a catalogue. Nobody has even hinted that all of the input methods have been developed, nor that we shouldn't attempt to create alternatives. By all means push forward. But let's do so without cutting our legs out from under us. And a decent magician would never need to pick a method from a catalogue. However, he should have the ability to access the general input options that are obvious, without hassle, to achieve his vision. Since it is clear that some are attempting to claim a few of these limited options, hopefully this thread can shed more light on what can or can't be used, and why these specific ones are so different than the others. As mentioned before, some of the obvious include flipping over the phone in different ways, timing, swiping, tilting, multiple tapping, swiping from initial swipescreen, using a code in the passcode lock screen, using a pebble, using a bluetooth remote, voice recognition, internet synchronizing, secret writing with finger (like a nailwriter), secret typing, phone switching, etc. These are all basic tools that we can use to create an effect. My thoughts? Another couple of years and it is going to be funny that this thread even had to exist, and that these, plus many more, will be obvious options due to advancing technology. I guess in the meantime we can continue to play "Pong" on the Xbox One. JB |
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John Born Veteran user 390 Posts |
I do see a point here though. My grandma showed me a similar Mr. Wizard effect with a phone when I was a kid. At least there is a place for your creation.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
I honestly don't know enough about app development to give an opinion here or to take sides.
But this has turned completely unprofessional and embarrassing. And since my personal feeling is that mentalism apps are almost universally suspect when the phone is an overt part of the presentation, it is really just may be a tempest in a leaky teapot that will soon be empty. Good thoughts, Bob |
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juggernought Regular user 200 Posts |
I have voiced my views already and they have not changed. However, John I agree with Bob - this really has become embarrassing. You're just being mean now and substituting arguments for insults. For your sake, please think more about what you write next time (if indeed you still think it is actually useful to continue this 'discussion'). Such behaviour in public forums does not reflect well on you.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
* The last sentence of my previous post should read, "It really may just be a tempest in a leaky teapot that will soon be empty."
That's what happens when I edit my own posts on the fly. |
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John Born Veteran user 390 Posts |
Agreed - a couple of my opinions I should have kept to myself. Will do my best to stick to the topic as well. Came to a point of simply entertaining myself since, after 4 pages, I am not receiving direct or logical answers from the few that do not share the same viewpoint in this discussion.
I apologize about the Mr. Wizard comment. Not because the two effects are dissimilar, but because I don't think she would really be in the market to do your effect either, as it is sometimes a bit of trouble trying to teach a grandma how to text. Thanks for the fun. J |
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juggernought Regular user 200 Posts |
You say you agree but you are being rude and sarcastic again.
You have received logical and reasoned answers. I don't know what else you want other than for us to agree with you. |
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