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On Jan 20, 2015, Ian McColl wrote: Still, such a loss... 
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Ian McColl Inner circle 1493 Posts
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On Jan 20, 2015, Pakar Ilusi wrote: All things comes to pass. If the family believes in any afterlife, then they surely will be happy (that is the reason for believing in such things). Sad at the moment but surely happy in the long term. Some even believe it's part of some grand plan 'if that is what they believe, again only happiness "long term" should be achieved. However if like me, there is nothing afterward and life is not a rehearsal, it is absolutely a tragic event. The possibility of the child fulfilling a full lifetime has been extinguished by a silly cultural right and stupidity of all adults involved.
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magicfish Inner circle 7016 Posts
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On Jan 21, 2015, Ian McColl wrote: Ian. You truly are a sick, sick man. Your comments are absolutely disgusting. I will ignore you from here on and I ask you to never engage me in future. You are a vile human being. To suggest that the family is happy about this tragedy to further your agenda on religion is in poor taste. I pity you. Your immorality and lack of integrity harms your argument more than supports it. |
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Ian McColl Inner circle 1493 Posts
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Sorry magicfish, I didn't know I was responding to you at all.
I was talking to Pakar and agreeing that it is tragic. I didn't say that the family was happy about the event. I do think that they will find comfort in their beliefs.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts
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I don't recall anything in the article about the family's religious beliefs. But like I said earlier, this is a good example of why I wouldn't want you on my side if I were an atheist. Those kind of comments are exactly the kind that give atheism a bad name.
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Ian McColl Inner circle 1493 Posts
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I guessed that as over 80% of Americans believe in god and therefore in heaven, then there is some relief for the family. As an atheist I cannot reflect from experience and can only contemplate the satisfaction their belief would have or offer. That is all I was saying but obviously not in a way which you like.
My post is not a sole reason for Americans to dislike atheist, they just don’t like anyone that isn’t like themselves. especially free thinkers and open minded people. refer http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-......atheists except This finding comes as no surprise. Social science has long revealed high rates of secularphobia – the irrational dislike, distrust, fear, or hatred of nonreligious people – within American society. For example, a study by Penny Edgell of the University of Minnesota, from back in 2006, found that atheists come in last place when Americans are asked to rank members of certain racial, ethnic, or religious groups as potential spouses for their kids. And a Gallup poll from 2012 found that 43 pecent of Americans said that they would not vote for an atheist for president, putting atheists in last/worst place, behind Muslims (40 percent of Americans said they wouldn’t vote for a Muslim for president), homosexuals (30 percent wouldn’t), Mormons (18 percent wouldn’t), Latinos (7 percent wouldn’t), Jews (6 percent wouldn’t), Catholics (5 percent wouldn’t), women (5 percent wouldn’t) and African Americans (4 percent wouldn’t). .................... Phelp did the same for your lot, so don't point fingers.
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts
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This was an unimaginable tragedy but I don't think the parents should be charged.
There is no penalty that the law could impose that could compare to what they are already going through. The remaining children are going to need both parents to get through this, if that's even possible.
If you need fear to enforce your beliefs, then your beliefs are worthless.
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts
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Ian, you really are a one-trick pony, aren't you?
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts
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Here's a question - Assuming they want to after this, should the parents be allowed to own a gun?
If you need fear to enforce your beliefs, then your beliefs are worthless.
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts
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On Jan 21, 2015, NYCTwister wrote: Why would that even be an issue? Why should the parents lose a right because of what the grandfather did?
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On Jan 21, 2015, stoneunhinged wrote: Worse yet...it's 3 rows of 7!
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Sad. More sad than an adult.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts
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The believers in this forum have been no less insistent on their point of view.
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts
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On Jan 20, 2015, Tom Cutts wrote: Thanks for pointing that out. It is information that is new to me. However my point stands; whoever left an unsecured gun in the presence of a child should be charged. Then jailed if convicted. As a grandfather he has raised one generation and been involved with a second generation of children. So he has no excuse for such stupidity and negligence. It is an unimaginable loss for a family, and completely preventable.
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greerj Loyal user East Tennessee 283 Posts
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Http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/22/2-y......testnews
Two year old finds gun in glove compartment, shoots himself. |
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Ian McColl Inner circle 1493 Posts
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Http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31082294
three year old shoots mum and dad. Thanks goodness they aren't dead. What the!
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