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Xavier Loyal user Australia 209 Posts |
Effect: A plucked rose visibly wilts and dies as you talk about the fragility of life
This effect would fit perfectly into my act. Can anyone comment on it? Would love to know if it will look as good as it sounds. Many thanks, Xavier. |
highmagic Veteran user 399 Posts |
It looks as good as it sounds, indeed... But (obviously) far from being a practical worker for table hopping!
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big dan Regular user UK/Canada/New Zealand 178 Posts |
It is a great effect, in fact the whole book is excellent, well worth getting. Especially with the presentation given in the book it makes the effect that much more stronger in the eyes of the audience.
If your into mentalism and suggestion you can really kill with this effect. Highly recommended.
Some people work to ski....i ski to work!
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JamesCheung Loyal user London, UK 214 Posts |
The rose effect is more of a theatrical piece than an
effect per se. It's not for everyone and has limitations which will be obvious to anyone with the manuscript. Also the rose does not 'wilt' but shrivels or appears to shrivel up. However, with the right lighting, the right environment and the right amount of (good)acting, it could appear to be a very strong piece of impromptu karmic tomfoolery. My opinion is that this would appeal only to those performers who perform with conviction, gravitas and congruency or those with a slightly darker edge to their plotlines. You can't chuck this into a set that includes sponge balls and dancing canes and expect to pull it off with any credibility. |
truthteller Inner circle 2584 Posts |
I have read the piece but have not tried it. My question is, has anyone ACTUALLY PERFORMED this piece and if so, how did it go?
Its an interesting theory, but in truth I am not convinced it would play. HOWEVER, I would love to be able to say, "I stand corrected." Any thoughts from those who have actually performed the trick as opposed to merely liking the idea behind it? |
Will_Tingle New user 24 Posts |
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On 2004-02-13 17:38, truthteller wrote: My feelings exactly. You'de need balls of steel to even ATTEMPT it, and it reads like nothing more than a pipe dream (sorry LJ) as with Truth teller, I'de love to be wrong...
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JamesCheung Loyal user London, UK 214 Posts |
I have performed the rose effect once, and that was at a venue where there were roses in little vases at every table. I planted the gaffed rose into one of these vases and started to proceeded to talk in all seriousness about life forces and the legendary chinese 'death touch' or 'dim mak' where the natural flow of energy is disrupted and death quickly follows. The rose was picked up and played with casually as I talked. Almost as an afterthought, the rose was held up and gently caressed in my cupped hands and then dropped onto the table, shrivelled and lifeless. I've rehearsed a variation where I kiss the rose and then blow at it, causing it die - a nice take on 'the kiss of death'. It does wonders for my devil worshipping credentials but little for my love life...
The point I'm trying to make is that the basic method is easy...almost a non-method but the presentation and the conviction of the performer is everything. If you can't act or have a routine that is all sweetness and light then this routine cannot possibly work for you. You have to wrap this in something believeable for both yourself and the audience or else forget this effect and do a centre tear or some cutlery bending. Incidentally, I reinforce this effect with Luke's 'For Andruzzi' which I also use as demonstration of energy manipulation. |
Ramsay Special user England 638 Posts |
It is not the most workable routine I have published in the fact that it wouldn't be good for walk around settings. However it is in my one man "theatre" show in that kind of setting it works well.
It would not be the best thing to do walk around....lol ;) Luke Jermay. |
truthteller Inner circle 2584 Posts |
I think with a careful use of lighting and blocking the condition of the rose could be both hidden and the idea of its supposed condition "sold" very strongly. I could envision a nice spot on a small stage when reading the trick.
But then we have the transformation, which seems to me would be best blocked with others being close to the magical happening. So we have a trick that benifits from stage conditions but yet would work best witht he intimacy of a closeup environmeny. What are your solutions to this concern? |
Ramsay Special user England 638 Posts |
You hvae pretty much covered the "intimate" issue. For me this is a parlour effect and nothing else
I use it pretty much in the way you saw it being used when read. It is more about strong focus and direction of attention than anything. The shadow of your hand in my experience is more than enough "shade" for the magic to happen. Soft lighting and a dramatic flood/wash of red light toward the end really makes a nice visual image. Luke Jermay. |
Zod New user 41 Posts |
Geller used to do a similar effect back in the 70's.
I read about it in 'The Search For Superman'. |
Will_Tingle New user 24 Posts |
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On 2004-02-13 18:25, JamesCheung wrote: this version I like, and I think that a proper presentation would really "sell" it. in the printed version however the audince is supposed to "see" the rose die AFTER you put it down. It seams to me that they will se you put down a dead rose, while saying it's still alive. Has anyone here preformed the effect AS PRINTED and had the audience convinced they saw the magic happen? (except Luke) Again, I'de love to be wrong
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giochi Special user 502 Posts |
If you want them to see the "aura" or the "energy of life" around each of the petels... pluck them off with a D'lite.
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ellisd Veteran user Sacramento 330 Posts |
Even if you were to not use any of the effects in lukes book it is still worth investing in just for the concepts discussed in the first half. I've got both 7 deceptions and building blocks and consider them some of my best investments so far. You really have to read them several times and let the concepts sink into the old noggin.
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Stephen Long Inner circle 1481 Posts |
I agree with you.
Whilst I will probably never perform anything in the second half of the book, the content of the first half is priceless. As for the the effect in question - I have no doubt that Luke can perform it beautifully. Personally, I would never attempt it.
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psychic Veteran user 337 Posts |
It has been mentioned that besides your attitudes in performing-both to yourself and your spectator, the surrounding/external factors are equally important. The Rose effect I believe will work under the correct settings. And not just that, the internal factors that you can control it takes time to build through practice. Only then will this gel with the external factors. Something like ying and yang.
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pcamel New user 51 Posts |
Is this effect on the dvd skullduggery?
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felix2 New user 96 Posts |
Check out this thread for a description of the contents of Skullduggery. A must have DVD especially for those who own 7 deceptions and Building Blocks.
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......11&6 |
pkg Inner circle The City of Ithobaal I son of Hiram I 1356 Posts |
I dunno if anyone is still reading this thread, but there is an easy setup for the whole rose stuff that would enable you to perform it flawlessly, gonna post it in the secret session...
Double posters should be shot!
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Nicholas young Regular user Belgium 114 Posts |
Very interesting concept, I will have to dig up the book tomorrow!
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