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spectrahue Regular user Leicestershire 161 Posts |
Hi folks I would be interested to know if there is a clean "Out to Lunch" method that anyone has come across ...
criteria ideally met would be ; signed prior , in view before; create beilief in one sheet of paper; buisness card etc. in view after ; dispell any thoughts of a switch I am aware of Doc Easons clip although I don't think it would be clean afterwards ..... thanks in advance best Nic |
Kabbalah Inner circle 1621 Posts |
Wide rubber band.
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karnak Special user Connecticut 747 Posts |
Wide rubber band? Isn't that the equivalent of Doc Eason's clip (which he dismissed)?
I read him to be getting at ending clean in the sense of not ending up with a half card in the (clipped or banded) bundle. But as he didn't explicitly say so, maybe that's not what he meant...?
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inigmntoya Inner circle DC area native, now in Atlanta 2350 Posts |
I'll match Kabbalah's price and for just a little bit more I'll include the broccoli.
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spectrahue Regular user Leicestershire 161 Posts |
Gentleman please ....as Karnak rightly states I am looking to end without the tell tale sign of a half card quite different to the other telegraphing the fact it has been switched.
I simply want to cop towards me , pull out the prepared hidden half to give to the spectator and casually show that all is normal from whence this paper slip came before popping it in my pocket. I have been working at this conundrum for quite some time now and have a couple of ways which seem to work ......I am getting there slowly but thought that surely someone else would have come up with something. A kind of next generation "Out to Lunch Principal" keep the suggestions coming in please .... and thankyou Karnak for maintaining the spirit of the post ..... thanks Nic |
inigmntoya Inner circle DC area native, now in Atlanta 2350 Posts |
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I simply want to cop towards me , pull out the prepared hidden half to give to the spectator and casually show that all is normal from whence this paper slip came before popping it in my pocket. I'm assuming you meant to say you'd hand the spectator everything *except* the prepared hidden half? Sounds like you're running when not being chased, or trying to come up with something for magicians familiar with the OTL principle? |
spectrahue Regular user Leicestershire 161 Posts |
Hi Ini, It appears from the posts that what you say might be true however I think I will need to point out something else to make my efforts for a clean method more clear.
I will be asking the spectator to sign their intials on one side and having some numbers filled in by the rest of the party on the other side of the paper (opposite the seperation and intials). Once I have removed the gimmicked pre written paper it would nice to flash the upper surface upon putting the stack away devoid of the dirty work. If it is also a magician fooler then so be it ..... I have seen the kind of ingenuity and lengths that Tommy Wonder would go to and they weren't for magicians they were for the magic ! There are some quite cute spectators out there and for me if I was in their shoes it would be something I would question later on if I hadn't seen it periphally in a casual type manner. This seems logical to me ? thanks Nic |
Paul Inner circle A good lecturer at your service! 4409 Posts |
The whole point of having the card initialed is to eliminate the possibility of 'dirty work' and since attention should be on the one card removed feeling the need to show everything is good where the card was removed from seems redundant.
I know what you mean about the stack not looking right if it were shown,although with some routines it looks fine with others it does not. I prefer to use Greg Wilson's "Stockholder Wallet" which has a cover which can simply be closed when the card has been removed, and offers more cover for secretly removing something if that way inclined. Maybe Greg's wallet idea might make you feel more comfortable. I've come across 'cute' (or drunk) spectators before, but when you say " if I was in their shoes it would be something I would question later on if I hadn't seen it periphally in a casual type manner" are you sure you're not projecting some of your magical knowledge onto them? With today's attention span I'd be surprised if more than half your audience recalled you had a stack of cards after you've done several effects. |
spectrahue Regular user Leicestershire 161 Posts |
Hi Paul , point duly noted; Gregs stockholder wallet is a good idea and natural in performance although for it to fit an effect I use the dividing band isn't in the right location.
I have though managed to come up with a simple solution after playing around with the concept for many hours. It uses a stock of cards as per the norm and appears to all intents and purposes as you would expect; a stock of cards secured by a band. The card is signed on one side of the band, the information is put in on the other side and I remove the signed slip ....in that action the dirty slip automatically dissapears , allowing me to flash the top subtly before popping it in my pocket.No batteries, threads or trapdoors. I know most would not question but I am a purist and for me it was a weakness whih I believe minimised the principal in its use for other effects. I wanted an organic feel for this and feel I have achieved it. In the mean time if anyone still knows of a next gen Out to Lunch principal .....let me know. If not .....you do now. best wishes NIC |
warren Inner circle uk 4138 Posts |
There are also a few wallets out now that have the out to lunch incorporated into them.
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Paul Inner circle A good lecturer at your service! 4409 Posts |
Actually, there was a type of mini switch clip board that Roy Johnson put out years back, the Lightning Switch Pad I think it was called that might have worked for you, but for close up use a stack of business cards does seem more natural. Roy also had an idea for stopping the gaff slipping in OTL routines one could consider an improvement, but not relevant to your routine requirements.
Warren, The Stockholder was the first of such wallets and came with some great routines. |
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