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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
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On May 23, 2015, bigfoot wrote: An EFFECT is what the spectator(s) see or think that they see. I think that you mean a list of tricks. If you're looking for "new" tricks, look in old books!
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David French Veteran user 374 Posts |
Chop cup - Don Alan
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Gerald Deutsch Special user 526 Posts |
I have never understood why some magicians think that “older” effects are better than “newer” effects.
I see the only goal of a magic effect to be to entertain an audience. Certainly some “classics” can do that – unless – such an effect has been done so often that some audiences may be tired of seeing it or not be surprised when they should be. And today’s audience is different than that of our forefathers. I understand that Houdini – who we all know was one of the greatest of magic showmen – would escape and then, backstage read a newspaper and appear 20 minutes later. I doubt if today’s audiences would just sit for twenty minutes patiently waiting. For anything! How many “old effects” might have been entertaining years ago but today would bore an audience? For example, showing a box empty and then producing a dozen or more silks. Of course if the effect is changed a bit to produce a Perverse Magic situation – like, for example after producing some silks producing something that surprises the magician – like, for example, an undershirt (and then the surprised magician looks confused and peers under his shirt to see if his undershirt is missing). Or how about another “classic” Coins Through the Table”. I sometimes end the routine by showing the last coin to pass is now bent – much to my confusion. The original “Bobo” written in 1952 is a classic of coin magic and yet when it was reprinted in 1966 it had additional chapters and I found an effect that I use all the time in one of the new chapters though it is not a classic. By the way – bigfoot lists All Backs by Derek Dingle. The earliest I’ve seen for this effect is by Dai Vernon and it appears in the June 1949 issue of Hugards Magic Monthly on page 552 and on page 459 of Expert Card Technique. I published my routine on the Perverse Magic thread of the Genii Forum on January 7, 2004 and noted suggestions by Jerry Mentzer, Jonathan Townsend and Michael Ammar. Does anyone think that this “classic” should have remained “untouched”? |
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jay leslie V.I.P. Southern California 9498 Posts |
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On Jun 4, 2015, Gerald Deutsch wrote: Possibly the title of this thread may be misunderstood even though the thought was there. The entire thread may have been different if the title was "Have new magicians strayed from learning slights and gimmickry, prefering push button magic?" But then.... there wouldn't have been much of a thread
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bigfoot Special user 502 Posts |
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On May 28, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote: hey Jay told me the same thing. |
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