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brad12d3 Special user 526 Posts |
I know there countless threads with slight variations of the "best" self working card tricks, but I am making this one very specific for those times when you are in a situation that you have just one borrowed deck, you are terrible at sleights like myself, but would like to perform several tricks without much effort and procedure. For so long I have been obsessed with a number of gaffed and arranged decks which I have used to really stun people... however I eventually realized that I didn't have much in the way of good, easy, impromptu tricks that could be done with just one deck. So I started going back through my books and DVDs and have started a list of my favorite impromptu self workers that require no sleights or serious card handling skills. My goal is to get about 20-30 good tricks like these in my repertoire, so that I could go for a while if need be or just keep things fresh from occasion to occasion.
So here is my list so far. I will be adding to it, and I encourage anyone else to add their recommendations... all I ask is that the tricks posted meet the criteria laid out above. Here you go! Emotional Reaction – by Dai Vernon Automatic Ace Triumph Gemini Twins – Fulves Devastation by Geoff Williams Child's Play by Karl Fulves Untouched by DARYL The Mathematical Card Trick (Scarne on Card Tricks) Stop! Harry Lorayne (OK this one takes some practice... mainly learning to eye a cut, but there are no sleights!) Degrees of Freedom “Dear Mr. Fantasy” Patrick Redford – Applesauce ACAAN |
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
STOP! is out of Close-Up Card Magic (1962!) - there must be hundreds of other effects/routines, the kind you're looking for in my 20 or more books since then.
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
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RogerTheShrubber Veteran user 301 Posts |
You can add Mountebank Miracle from Royal Road, The Two Pile Trick from Encyclopedia of Card Tricks (Hugard), Spectator Finds Your Card (Kli Ban from the Hugard Encyclopedia), Twin Souls (Al Baker, Hugard's Encyclopedia, first book), Get Thee Behind Me Satan (Hugard's Encyclopedia) and the third trick in the Scarne book (can't remember the name, but Scarne credits Francis Carlyle for it, I think it's called "Upside Down Deck" or something like that).
I'd also recommend Quick as a Wink from the first Fulves book. Technically it does involve one move that requires practice, but if you throw down diagonally instead of straight down you can learn it in minutes. It takes significantly less practice than Mr. Lorayne's "STOP" does, and it isn't even really a sleight (or I don't think it is, anyway). The Scarne book, as I'm sure you know, contains nothing but tricks that fit your criteria, but based on the fact that you listed a trick from it I assume you have looked through it and picked what you like. Still, even if so, I would suggest that you revisit the Carlyle trick I mentioned, it gets great reactions and fits your criteria in every way. |
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brad12d3 Special user 526 Posts |
Harry - I am about to go through your books next... STOP! was one I pulled from memory but I know there are some other terrific ones in your books... Time to dive in!
Thanks Roger, there's a couple you mentioned that I haven't heard of before! I'll check them out. Might have some new favorites. |
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
Right, Brad. Perhaps The Shubber can tell us what "practice" is involved with my STOP! No sleights at all involved - and if you do use a sleight, you're doing it wrong! So, let's wait and see.
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Nicolino Inner circle 2893 Posts |
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On Sep 4, 2015, RogerTheShrubber wrote: Quote:
On Sep 7, 2015, Harry Lorayne wrote: Where on earth did Roger ever say he used sleights?? I guess he is only refering to what a certain Harry Lorayne wrote in the description of "Stop!": "The thing to do is to practice your estimations!" There you have it: practice!
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
"Practicing" estimation doesn't quite fit the subject here - the original poster was asking about, talking about, referencing to - SLEIGHTS. So, let me be clear - there are NO SLEIGHTS to practice in STOP!.
So, and in my very unknowledgeable opinion, saying "...takes significantly less practice than Mr. Lorayne's "STOP" does" when the subject is SLEIGHTS within a routine, is giving incorrect, wrong, advice - and I wanted to help by trying to make that clear to the original poster. So, what a certain Nicolino is ranting about - as he's done before when I or anything of mine is being discussed - makes absolutely no sense. So THERE YOU HAVE IT - no sense; waste of time and space.
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RogerTheShrubber Veteran user 301 Posts |
Mr. Lorayne, with all due respect, I said that the move in "Quick as a Wink" isn't a sleight, didn't I? And is there anything in the post of mine you keep referring to that says that there is any slieght in "STOP?" No, there's not.
Since you're the most knowledgeable card magician I've ever had contact with, let me ask you this, please: for the AVERAGE person (not someone such as you whose card skill is legendary), which takes more practice - doing the count in "STOP" naturally, or the deck throw move in "Quick as a Wink" which can be mastered in about two minutes? I don't think I even neeeded two minutes to master the deck throw, and I have the small hands of limited card magic effectiveness that come with a 5'5" guy who has significant nerve damage in one hand. I never said there were any sleights in "STOP," sir. I said (or at least obviously meant) that the deck throw required less practice than the count does when it comes to doing both naturally, and I stick with that assessment. Perhaps I could have been more clear in my first post, but again, I didn't say there were sleights in "STOP," did I? I said "STOP" requires more practice than "Quick as a Wink," that's all. Do you really disagree with that? Anyone can DO the count, but doesn't it require a bit of practice to do it quickly, efficiently and naturally for those of us who haven't been doing card magic for eight decades? If you do disagree, then allow me to rephrase: it took ME more practice to do "STOP" well than it did to master the one physical maneuver in "Quick as a Wink," which is saying a lot since I do have somewhat of a physical handicap. As you and everyone else in the Café knows, there's more to magic than doing sleights, and to perform non-sleight acts of subterfuge, practice is still required, is it not? With all due respect, though, I think you perceived a sleight to YOU when there was none intended (or, for that matter, even present). But since you called me out twice, I'd like to ask where in my original post I said there were any sleights of any kind in "STOP." Nobody on this board, least of all you, needs to be told that the concept of practice is not limited to sleights, right? |
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
A) I don't know Quick As A Wink, sorry. b) you compared STOP! with an obvious - so you tell me - sleight. That's wrong, sorry. Makes those who don't know STOP! think you're referring to a sleight. So, you didn't have to "say" there were sleights in STOP! - it is assumed, MUST BE assumed, from your statement. And that's wrong. Sorry.
c) What "COUNT", which you keep mentioning, is there in STOP!? Sorry, I have no idea what you mean. The spectator deals cards onto the table and you STOP! him on his card. Where in my routine is there a "count." Sorry; have no idea what you mean, as I'm sure nobody else does. d) Yes, the entire thing is based on a simple estimation - NO COUNTS, NO SLEIGHTS. I just wanted to be sure everyone understood that. I don't see/understand "practicing" estimation. e) So, no big deal, but in my opinion, your post was not at all helpful to those who didn't/don't know STOP! Sorry. Not trying to "put you down," Roger, but if you're going to mention anything about anything of mine that I don't agree with, or that I know is wrong, I'm going to respond. Nature of this beast. Sorry. Best - H.
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
Just want to be sure you understand - I'm not trying to put you down in any way. Just trying to "protect" my own. You've said nice things about my books in other threads and I appreciate that - certainly don't want to put you down (if I do you won't say nice things about my stuff anymore!!). No, Roger, just want to keep things clear re: any of my items. Best - H.
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RogerTheShrubber Veteran user 301 Posts |
Mr. Lorayne, you and I could spend a year at each other's throats and it wouldn't stop me from recommending your books. I make those recommendations when people ask for what is good in the field, and I'm not going to hold back on a recommendation of a good source just because the author and I disagree on something. My respect for your abilities, accomplishments and books is limitless, and I'm not even offended by this exchange at all (I am assuming you aren't either, you certainly don't seem to be). However, I once again assert that you're reading something that isn't there.
When I used the word "count" I meant "estimation." I apologize if anyone was misled by that, but it doesn't change the fact that the estimation requires more practice than the move in "Quick as a Wink," which, I say for the third time, is not even a sleight. And I don't know how anyone could come to the conclusion that I said there were sleights in "STOP" when I've already said there aren't and there was nothing in my original statement that said there were (in a thread where the no-sleights condition was announced from the start). What I said is that "Quick as a Wink" requires less practice than "STOP," and it does. We're discussing two different things here, Mr. Lorayne. I've already said there aren't any sleights in "STOP." I said "Quick as a Wink" is easier to learn. And since you don't know "Quick as a Wink" (there's no reason you should, it's a decent trick for beginners but not on par with your stuff anyway), you couldn't disagree with that even if you wanted to. But to make it clear to everyone else: Mr. Lorayne is obviously quite correct in that there are no sleights in "STOP." Cheers, Roger |
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El Mystico Special user 573 Posts |
While Roger didn't say, or deliberately imply, there was a sleight in STOP!, I do see, if you take the paragraph as a whole, that someone reading it might INFER there was a sleight. So I can see why Harry felt the need to clarify.
It is a great trick. I remember performing it for another card magician who was completely fried by it. |
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Ignaz New user 5 Posts |
Great thread, I am in the same search that you are, I feel identified with your first paragraph where you detail what you are looking for.
You mentioned Patrick Redford – Applesauce ACAAN, and I recommend, from the same book (Applesauce) the effect called Storm. Amazing! |
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Terrible Wizard Inner circle 1973 Posts |
FSDIU self-workers? Soooo many. But who can resist a list, huh?
OK, so off the top of my head my go-to FSDIU self workers (without even a f*rce or anything) are (in no particular order): Gemini Twins Untouched (or variations) The Piano Card Trick Automatic Ace Triumph Betting Game sucker trick (or any other KC+reveal trick) If you can include on-the-fly set ups and a simple single 'move'(though not really a sleight): Pre-prefiguration Cowboys & Indians Lazy Magicians Card Trick Lie Detector 2 Hindu F*rce + revelation of choice/ Cross-cut f*rce + revelation of choice The Nervous Card Poker Player's Picnic Overclock Various J*nah card poker deal tricks Any impromptu OOTW trick |
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Ben Blau Inner circle 1475 Posts |
If you are not familiar with my routine "Unfazed", it really fits the bill for this thread. I usually perform it with ESP cards, but it could just as easily be done with any playing cards.
Have a look. This is completely impromptu, and about 99.9% self-working. https://www.benblaumentalism.com/unfazed.html
Ben Blau
http://www.benblaumentalism.com |
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Joshua Barrett Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 3631 Posts |
I have always liked Bannons version of the Christ ace trick in DMF. You get 4 really strong ace productions and usually a royal flush kicker. Super easy, but to layman you seem like a card mechanic.
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Terrible Wizard Inner circle 1973 Posts |
Is it impromptu Joshua? I'm not familiar with it.
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Joshua Barrett Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 3631 Posts |
Yeah and self working. If you want the royal flush kicker there is a small stack but Bannon describes a extremely easy and move free method of setting said stack, which amounts to basically doing it in front of them. Personally I just spread cull the cards. This can be skipped however and you can still do the ace part of the trick which is quite good by itself.
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Terrible Wizard Inner circle 1973 Posts |
Cool . Thanks for the info.
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BeThePlunk Special user West of Boston, East of Eden 887 Posts |
"The Known" by Thom Peterson is so simple and very strong as a prediction effect. I get slack-jawed silence or NFW responses every time I do it, even from people who have seen me do it more than once. Any deck, even a partial deck. Just pick up the cards and go.
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