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James Conti Elite user My mum isn't too pleased about my 425 Posts |
Http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S20173
Skycap tipped on its head. My wish is to find out if this is actually this visual and workable, or too good to be truel
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JustJoshinMagic Special user Montreal, QC 965 Posts |
It's interesting that they mention Sky Cap in the ad copy. Luke Dancy commented on their fb page and it looks like he nor the PHP team were told about this at all. It's one thing to release a new version of an effect with the permission of the original creator, but if neither Paul nor Luke weren't consulted on this, then this is pretty un-classy. ESPECIALLY to mention the original effect
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Magic KL Inner circle 2564 Posts |
Hope what you see is what you can really do.
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MagicHelper New user 4 Posts |
Phase 1. SkyCap by Luke Dancy
Phase 2 and 3. ReCap by Jay Grill Taking two tricks and putting them together DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN RELEASE IT AS YOUR OWN CREATION! Open and shut case. Pull this sh!t off the shelves. |
MR Effecto Inner circle 2836 Posts |
4 posts and your already starting to raise hell?
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Fatgumbo Veteran user Melbourne, Australia 340 Posts |
If the method is completely different (to which I believe it is), then I don't see the problem in releasing it. The only mistake Sansminds made was referring to Skycap in the ad copy.
How is it theft in any way or sort? You can't claim originality for a plot in magic, only a method. |
toointoit New user 21 Posts |
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On Oct 15, 2015, Fatgumbo wrote: This effect is clear theft. Recapped by Jay Grill was released over a year ago through penguin. Pierced is a blatant ripoff of the recapped method. see for your self! http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/4260 |
Slackerking Special user 613 Posts |
Unless you have the effect there is no way for you to know if it is "theft", just watching trailers doesn't mean squat. Secondly It's not really theft, you might find it unethical but there is no law against companies releasing similar product in any industry unless there is a copyright, patent or intellectual property infringement which there isn't here. People were complaining about Penguin doing this a week ago, and Ellusionist the month before. You might feel it's against some unwritten rule amongst the fraternity of magic but legally it's completely legit.
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Suux88 Loyal user 201 Posts |
If my thinking is right
this has not related to skycap at all however recap tho... |
J. Grill New user Missouri 17 Posts |
Hello,
This is my creation, I have contaced Sansmind about the matter yet I am still getting the run around from them. I even went ahead a contaced Jibrizi, and he stated the gimmick was the same. I was never contaced about anyone before this release. It saddens me to think this is how a company is being run. |
Lou Cirulli Special user 587 Posts |
Once again Sansmind screws someone over!!!!
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Sean Xem Loyal user New York 235 Posts |
It seems that sansminds is in some kind of controversy every week. While I'm a big believer in knowing the facts before making a judgment, I don't think it's a coincidence that these guys are always fending off accusations of unethical sales practices. If all this stuff is true, they shouldn't even be allowed to get free publicity on this forum.
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Magic KL Inner circle 2564 Posts |
I am thinking of buying ReCap. Jay, can I make the cap disappear with your method too?
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Stucky Inner circle I'm Batman! 1355 Posts |
20$ for something that you likely have to make yourself that only costs 99 cents? These companies release this stuff because they know places like Penguin and Murphy's will just give them money regardless. If you are mad, cut them off at the money machine and complain to the enablers. That's the only way to send a clear message.
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RNK Inner circle 7493 Posts |
As bad as I want to purchase a few effects Sansmind and Ellusionist recently released- I will not buy anything from them anymore. I have been in magic long enough that I finally came to the realization that you don't "need" the latest cool looking trick. Stick with the creators and companies that are upfront and honest. Makes my life so much easier, lol!
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J. Grill New user Missouri 17 Posts |
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On Oct 16, 2015, Magic KL wrote: Yes, its basically just reversing the process of making it appear! |
Magic KL Inner circle 2564 Posts |
Thanks for confirming, Jay.
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acortest Regular user 123 Posts |
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On Oct 16, 2015, Stucky wrote: Well said, Stucky. I agree with you 100% on the proper way to deal with the situation. |
Alex McFly Regular user 105 Posts |
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On Oct 16, 2015, RNK wrote: True words ;-) |
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