On Dec 19, 2015, SamChak wrote:
Just like the Invisible Deck, the Unexpected Triumph deck is a self-working color change gaff deck as seen in the advertising claim. The effect indeed looks astonishing by the layman's standard. It is probably a perfect card magic for table hopping and audience who likes to enjoy unexpected plot. I can only guess that half of the deck is examinable. Hence, you may need to do a deck switch if you want to show it clean to your spectator.

On Dec 19, 2015, SamChak wrote:
I apologize if my statement was misconstrued. The point I'm trying to make is that Unexpected Triumph deck is a gaff deck with special-printed playing cards, and is self-working as good as the Invisible Deck. However, it is DOES NOT borrow any principle from the Invisible Deck. A good effect is measured by how it fools our brains repeatedly, not by how much we know about the secret. That's why I was always fascinated by Dai Vernon's Cups and Balls.

On Dec 19, 2015, SamChak wrote:
I guess the reason the gaff deck is priced at $35 is probably because you will receive a full deck of special-printed playing card, so that you can perform the color-changing effect with either the blue deck or the red deck. You might need just half a gaff deck and half a regular deck of playing cards. So, please clarify with the dealer if you can perform blue-to-red (as seen on youtube) and vice versa (red-to-blue). Anyhow, the Unexpected Triumph is generally an eye-pleasing effect to both laymen and magicians.

On Dec 19, 2015, SamChak wrote:
I guess the reason the gaff deck is priced at $35 is probably because you will receive a full deck of special-printed playing card, so that you can perform the color-changing effect with either the blue deck or the red deck. You might need just half a gaff deck and half a regular deck of playing cards. So, please clarify with the dealer if you can perform blue-to-red (as seen on youtube) and vice versa (red-to-blue). Anyhow, the Unexpected Triumph is generally an eye-pleasing effect to both laymen and magicians.

On Dec 22, 2015, FilmMagician wrote:
You were totally right. You have to provide your own cards. A bit of a rip off. But whatever. Hope all in all it's still just 52 you're holding.

On Dec 24, 2015, SamChak wrote:

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On Dec 22, 2015, FilmMagician wrote:
You were totally right. You have to provide your own cards. A bit of a rip off. But whatever. Hope all in all it's still just 52 you're holding.

Have you seen Juha-Matti's performance on his "sleightless" version of Dai Vernon's Triumph? If you send a PM to Juha-Matti, you can probably gain more insight into the handling of this effect.

On Dec 22, 2015, FilmMagician wrote:

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On Dec 19, 2015, SamChak wrote:
I guess the reason the gaff deck is priced at $35 is probably because you will receive a full deck of special-printed playing card, so that you can perform the color-changing effect with either the blue deck or the red deck. You might need just half a gaff deck and half a regular deck of playing cards. So, please clarify with the dealer if you can perform blue-to-red (as seen on youtube) and vice versa (red-to-blue). Anyhow, the Unexpected Triumph is generally an eye-pleasing effect to both laymen and magicians.

You were totally right. You have to provide your own cards. A bit of a rip off. But whatever. Hope all in all it's still just 52 you're holding.

So, you have to provide half of a deck? And, that's a bit of a rip off? Who doesn't have half a deck of cards laying around to make this up?

Robert

On Dec 29, 2015, FilmMagician wrote:

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On Dec 22, 2015, FilmMagician wrote:
You were totally right. You have to provide your own cards. A bit of a rip off. But whatever. Hope all in all it's still just 52 you're holding.

Have you seen Juha-Matti's performance on his "sleightless" version of Dai Vernon's Triumph? If you send a PM to Juha-Matti, you can probably gain more insight into the handling of this effect.

Oo I have not. But I'll look that up right away. Thank you!

On Jan 2, 2016, korttihai_82 wrote:

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On Dec 22, 2015, FilmMagician wrote:
You were totally right. You have to provide your own cards. A bit of a rip off. But whatever. Hope all in all it's still just 52 you're holding.

Have you seen Juha-Matti's performance on his "sleightless" version of Dai Vernon's Triumph? If you send a PM to Juha-Matti, you can probably gain more insight into the handling of this effect.

Oo I have not. But I'll look that up right away. Thank you!

My +7 year old version in Finnish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhw-NAhN9OI. I have lot more work on the routine these days and I have lectured about it few times and I was informed that Juan Esteban Varela (The guy famous of blind magic act) from Chile also has lots of work on the same gaffs. Basically the version in the video is total self worker. There is also a quick 3second reset to my version but magic shops (Murphy's, Alakazam and such) werent interested in it in early 2010's.
And there are much much better ways to reverse the deck that I am doing in that old video

I have also used the same consept as kicker to full deck oil and water routine as seen in my Youtube channel. This was also done years before similar products came to marked and I showed it to Michael Weber in Vegas 2009 and at least at that time he hadnt thought of that application to certain "deck of his"

And today I am honored to say that my friend Christian Engbloms "Pieces" has pretty much every advantage that my triumph has and can be done with borrowed deck. But it is also much harder... And actually, Christian's triumph could also have the color change ending as could mine but I personally don't like to mix color changing deck with triumph.
Juha-Matti

On Jan 9, 2016, Hideo Kato wrote:
Recently I bought 'Unexpected Triumph' and I was disappointed by back design of blue back gaff cards. It is not 'Rider Back'. I am curious if I can buy normal decks with blue back design as same as the gaff cards in 'Unexpected Triumph'?

I am also interested why the manufacturer did not used 'Rider Back' design in spite that they are using 'Rider Bsack' design for red backs.

I have one more complaint that the combination of gaff cards are not good, there are 4 Queens, 1 King and 1 Jack. Besides, in 26 gaff cards, there are 19 odd value cards and 7 even value cards. This is not a big problem in performances, but I wonder why they did not make the gaff cards in better combination.

Hideo Kato

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Maybe the manufaturer bought face blank red backed cards from USPC and printed gaff faces themsleves?