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downbeatcohort New user 18 Posts |
Does anyone have any info on the progress of the Warren Stephens book. Tim Sonefelt took preorders for this book over 4 years ago and so far no book. I asked here about the book a couple of years ago and got a rather sad response about it being a bigger undertaking than he had anticipated and how terribly busy he was with other projects. In the meantime I've seen a few Magic Cruises planned and many, many new products released but no sign of the book. Last September was the most recent update saying it was in the home stretch. Since then he's gone silent about the book. I don't understand why some dealers miss a mailing deadline for a product and get ostracized, and Tim gets a free pass after four years of holding people's money with no product on the horizon. Just curious.
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Gerry Walkowski Inner circle 1450 Posts |
Why not ask for a full refund and just pay the full price when the book is released?
I would. Gerry |
Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Sorry to hear of the delay.
Warren was a dear friend. He had some very clever ideas. I especially like, and, have passed along, his "LOOP DE LOO" C&R rope.
SNEAKY, UNDERHANDED, DEVIOUS,& SURREPTITIOUS ITINERANT MOUNTEBANK
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downbeatcohort New user 18 Posts |
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On Jul 28, 2016, Gerry Walkowski wrote: My first response is WHY? What I'd like, and I don't think it's asking too much is: An honest answer as to the progress and the book I helped pay for with an advance. Why would I ask for a refund. I did what was asked of me. I think 4 + years is more than enough patience, no? I would hate to think this is amounting to so kind of fraud. |
randyburtis Inner circle 1256 Posts |
Have you contacted him recently to express your concern?
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downbeatcohort New user 18 Posts |
Yes....no response. I can't be the only one that prepaid on this book. I don't understand why no one else is upset at this unreasonable delay.
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themagiciansapprentice Inner circle Essex, UK 1381 Posts |
Tim changed his website yesterday but is planning to release the book in the Autumn.
Have wand will travel! Performing children's magic in the UK for Winter 2014 and Spring 2015.
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downbeatcohort New user 18 Posts |
That's somewhat promising.
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themagiciansapprentice Inner circle Essex, UK 1381 Posts |
Tim showed the completed book on his Facebook page two hours ago, a proof copy is ready to be seen at Kidabra and orders from 1st September.
At 420+ pages it's more than your normal tome -- and you got a good deal pre-ordering. I'll have to pay a lot more.
Have wand will travel! Performing children's magic in the UK for Winter 2014 and Spring 2015.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Wwww.llepub.com have Warren Stevens video taped lectures converted to DVD and download.
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WayneNZ Inner circle New Zealand 1013 Posts |
It was on display at Kidabra ..... looks good.
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timsonefelt New user SC 44 Posts |
The book is progressing. It's been quite an adventure to say the least. We are currently in final editing stages. I've had a handful of inquiries by email, but since I don't know your name, I'm not sure if you've inquired that way either. I personally answer all inquiries about the book. Of the few (maybe 5 or less) we have received, I've offered a full refund. No one has wanted that and everyone chose to wait. Should you want a refund, I'll be happy to provide that - simply email me.
I can assure you that no one is more frustrated than I am that this project is not complete already. We're striving to get it done at the earliest possible date. For those who did pre-order and have waited, it will be worth it - in the content within as well as the price. Retail is tentatively set at $79. Apologies for not answering this on here sooner... I rarely have time to get on the Café. |
Jeff Haas Special user 929 Posts |
I dug out my Comedy Card in Balloon tray and it reminded me that there is a book on Warren Stephens "in the works" - is there any update on this after five years?
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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
Hi Jeff -
In April 2017, Tim Sonefelt made an announcement that he had to cancel the book. The reason is detailed in a post he made in the "Wonder Imagery" Group on Facebook. I won't copy & paste the details here, as they aren't mine to share. Also, not just the post, but the discussion afterwards, is relevant. But I'll provide a link, which is only possible to read if you are a member of his (private) Facebook group. He does have nearly 1000 members in his Facebook Group. If you're a member of his group, then this link will work for you. https://www.facebook.com/groups/wonderim......58468966 Everyone who pre-ordered / pre-paid were fully refunded. - Donald P.S. Tim's last post on The Magic Café was in September 2016, so if anyone has sent him a PM, it's likely unread. He's been gone from The Magic Café for a while now. Tim is still very active on Facebook.
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
Several years ago, Warren's daughter contacted Ken Klosterman (while I was working on the collection) and asked Ken for advice and input on publishing the book. Ken advised to get the book published but I don't remember much else about.
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
UPDATE - Tim Sonefelt gave me permission to copy and paste his post from Facebook.
Quote: Tim Sonefelt (April 12, 2017):
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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Jeff Haas Special user 929 Posts |
That's too bad. A lot of fun, innovative material will be lost.
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
Disappointing. I did feel from talking with the daughter that she felt the book was worth a lot more than it really was. You made a wise choice to step aside and did the honorable thing (as you always do) and refunded the monies.
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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