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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts 
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On 2004-03-21 10:33, Jive-Turkey wrote: Fooling magicians is unnecessary. And, they don't pay very well. ;) |
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Cardmanips2004 New user Sydney Australia 22 Posts
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Invisible deck cannot be performed using a borrowed or ordinary deck. It is a trick using special gaffet cards where the faces have been brushed with 'Rough King' when the deck is riifeled one direction the cards are seen to be completelly blank (No faces or bicycle backs) The other way round is a normal deck. Youy snap the fingers and create a magical printing prosess in order for the cards to 9print)
thanks
Flourishes rule!
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Mikey-Flys Regular user Edmonton, Alberta 179 Posts
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Invisible deck cannot be performed using a borrowed or ordinary deck. It is a trick using special gaffet cards where the faces have been brushed with 'Rough King' when the deck is riifeled one direction the cards are seen to be completelly blank (No faces or bicycle backs) The other way round is a normal deck. Youy snap the fingers and create a magical printing prosess in order for the cards to 9print) " Sounds like you may have a few different effects confused? |
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Geoff Weber Inner circle Washington DC 1384 Posts
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On 2004-03-21 09:05, Ollie1235 wrote: You don't have to keep buying invisible decks. They are reusable. I still have/use the first one I bought, (8 years ago.) if you prefer sleight of hand to gimmicks that is your choice... but to an audience, they just want to see good magic. The method is irrelevant as long as it fools them. I think you will find greater success if you put the audience first. |
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Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts
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I can't believe that non-gaff version is better in effect. I have read a few non-gaff versions and created some myself, but the effects never match with original.
Hideo Kato |
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D Atkinson New user 95 Posts
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I'm sorry, but I have to say, I have had the same reaction to both Gimmicked and non-gimmicked presentations. The logic now, for me, is to use the un-gimmicked option in a real situation.
There you are. Dean |
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icentertainment Inner circle 1429 Posts
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At the end of the day the Audience is what matters what you use to fool them should make no difference. They do not know the method only the effect.
It is not a matter of sleights vs gimmicks but which is the best way to fool the audience. full stop Dave Welzman Sydney Australia |
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts
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On 2004-03-22 11:36, icentertainment wrote: Method is relevant to the extent that it impacts effect. In my opinion, there is no ungimmicked method that's as clean in appearance as the gimmicked version, although I have not seen the two versions that Bill Palmer mentions above. Larry D. |
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Ollie1235 Special user England 533 Posts
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I said:I don't have an ID or know how to perform it with no gimmicks but in my opinion there are two reasons for using sleights instead of gimmicks
(a) its cheaper and you don't have to keep buying invisible decks for your routine (b) if your using slieghts then YOU are the one making the magic and not some gimmick thats just my opinion though anyone else prefer sleights rather than gimmicks geoff weber: You don't have to keep buying invisible decks. They are reusable. I still have/use the first one I bought, (8 years ago.) geoff , I know that invisible decks are re-usable but when ive spoke to some people at my localcircle of magicians some have said that they have to buy more than one because after a while they get worn out ollie |
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts
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I beleive Cody Fisher has some new twists on the ID.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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jezza Elite user 469 Posts
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I think a non gimmicked invisible deck is a great thing if it can be done , Im sure there are ways but not nearly as cleanly powerful as a gimmicked deck ,
I personally very rarely use my invisible deck as I don't feel comfortable using it ,with a regular deck I can get out of any mistakes should they happen one way or another , surely with a bit of equivoque and a bit of a set up a good invisible deck type routine could be done ?? |
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Mike Walton Special user Chicago 984 Posts
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On 2004-03-22 00:10, S2000magician wrote: S2000magician, your continued posts about this phrase are unnecessary. It seems you save your advertised politeness for expression only in your own forum... |
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MisterE21 Elite user Salt Lake City, UT 426 Posts
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I, personally, think it's a situation of running without being chased. I understand the extremely human need to tweak, twist and modify something...but it seems like unneccesary work. I have no problem with work, but it just doesn't seem necessary.
I do appreciate the thinking behind Close's deck though. When I first saw it, it was out of my league; now, if I chose, I could perform it...::shrug:: I've only seen it on the tape, does anyone know if he uses the line about "none of the cards being stuck together" in live performance for laymen? I've always found that thought a little usettling... E
Your EFFECT is only as good as its AFFECT.
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts
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On 2004-03-22 12:31, Ollie1235 wrote: Grasshopper, you must step back if you wish to move forward. |
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts
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On 2004-03-22 14:24, Jive-Turkey wrote: Please reread my last comment that you quoted. I was merely agreeing with you. |
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