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EvanMagic Elite user Manitoba 471 Posts |
A dove from a normal sized egg? Seems unnatural, but could be cool.
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Moonmagick New user Las Vegas 30 Posts |
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On 2005-01-18 17:17, Antoine wrote: HHmmmmmm Fruit basket, huh? sounds a bit like James DImmare's presentation. I know this because I was married to him and we created that method together. I know for fact that that prop has never been utilized with this routine before and he has been performing it this way for over 20 years. I now perform this effect in my act and it has always been my favorite effect. I saw it first when I was 8 years old in Paris, a certain Aldo Richiardi was performing it and it was exquisite! I have been in love with it ever. I have created my own presentation and I do not utilize a cage, never have. I crack the egg open in my bare hands and release the bird. I was the onl;y one that did this to my knowledge as I have been doing it this way for about 12 years but I know I'm not the only one now.... As for the Canary vs Parakeet discussion. Yes it was a canary in the original effect as a cage was utilized. Canarie's if you know anything about birds, are not too fond of being handled and can quite easily die from stress and heart attack due to over handling. Finches are even worse. If you do the trick once in a while you can get away with it but try handling these tiny birds two shows a night 6 nighta week. They may not make it. They are fragile. I know this from magicians I know that still use canaries and they lose quite a few of them. Richiardi always have at least 4 or 5 on hand. I prefer the parakeet, I use the English Budgrigars because they are bigger, more visual and much calmer and easier to train. Since I don't use a cage, My budgies sit on my shoulder and they are also trained to fly back to me or up to my hand if I tossthem out. They are also much more comfortable in a dark load space as their nesting boxes and fully covered and in the dark which puts them in their element. It's a nesting instinct. If you are new to the effect, I would start with a good cage until you get used to handling the birds. Luna
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Crispy Loyal user Louisville, KY 207 Posts |
I have the Chalet version which currently sells for $275. I like it for several reasons. 1) it's made of metal with a plastic laminate finish, so it's very durable and thin. Rather than a solid square base, it's thin in the middle with "legs" on the side, which makes it even mroe deceptive. 2)Chalet has moved the cage door to the side, so your hand/arm is not in the way of audience view when canary flies out of the egg. 3)They offer a version with a plexiglass front (the version I chose to buy) which even more increases the visability when the carany is produced at the end.
Also, instead of using a table base for the vanish of the items, I use a "dove to silk banner" and sewed two extra elastic loops in it for two additional silks. Place canary in banner, canary becomes yellow silk. Place egg in banner, egge becomes white silk. Place lemon in banner, lemon becomes yellow silk. Much more visual and deceptive than the table base or devil's hank method, in my opinion. Also very practical. Cris |
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magomarin New user SPAIN 2 Posts |
Help!
Someone can say to me where to buy PROLINE CAGE. Very interesting |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
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On 2004-03-26 02:18, SteelLuvMagic wrote: Okay, it was the question that threw me off. There is only one marketed effect OLEP by Malloy. This a dealer item. As is Chalet, that sells his as Canary Cage. Being Bryan ask which is the best one that mis-leads readers that there is more then one. Malloy only makes one model with this title. Chalet only makes the Canary Cage and did provide the complete effect OLEC with table. This effect is published in a very old book as originally using a Canary, hence the original reference. It seems many have read my post as condescending that is not the case at all. Sorry, for any misunderstanding. I have read a couple strings on the Café regarding how they will determine ownership, credit, original ownership, etc. This came to mind when I started read this string. I guess I am guilty of assuming this, for many on the Café. My apologizes. Posted: Feb 27, 2005 3:48pm -------------------------------------------------------- Anyone have any tips on cleaning out that fruit? I have the Martini Cage. It works great, no longer available. -------------------------------------------------------- |
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Bryan Gilles Inner circle Northern California 1732 Posts |
Wow- it's cool to see this thread re-surface! Since I posted it in March of 2004, I've done a lot of searching and experimenting with this routine. It's become one of my most favorite effects in magic today! I've looked at many different cages and was really blown away by the number of cages I came across... Without putting anyone down, I would have to say the Malloy model is the best. In overall appearance and workings, it looks like an ordinary cage and a slim table! There is enough "accents" to the design of the cage and the table to give it the "modern-day" appearance. That's not to say Chalet's cage is second rate. Chalet makes some wonderful illusions! I'm not too fond of Chalet's table design either as it has that mysterious looking platform resting on the "table-top"... Like I said, I am not trying to discredit the design or workings of each builder. This is just my personal opinion...
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thurstonlives Regular user 106 Posts |
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On 2004-03-26 22:21, wmhegbli wrote: WMHEGBLI I have that book (now selled by osborne) and I havent seen that principle in the book (Or I may say booklet) do you mind if you remind me the name of the illusion? Thanks D |
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5444 Posts |
Then there is the version that doesn’t use a gimmicked cage. It is manifestly easier, nothing mechanical to go wrong (nothing for eggshells to jam), doesn’t need a special table. John Novak discussed the first half of the trick in one of his books the Two-Meter Magician. His discussion of the vanish of the bird and the egg is what you garner from the book.
Then look at Dave Womack’s site and check out at his bare handed production of a parakeet (parakeet gizmo), and as small a cage as you can manage to get your hand and forearm into and you have the reappearance of the parakeet. So a small Wall-Mart cage, a gizmo, a bird, three small tissue paper bags, the set-up orange, a couple of rubber/latex props and a flat, thin top, table (clear topped is best) and you have a miracle for less than $100.00. Perform it very fast paced a la’ Richiardi and the audience will rock with you and be amazed when the bird is “freed” from the egg!
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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ARNOMAGIE Regular user France 200 Posts |
Except that a latex lemon seems impossible to find now....
if somebody has a clue.. |
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Andrew H. Regular user Elizabethton,TN 124 Posts |
I don't think you will have any luck getting a cage from Chalet. Your best bet is to call Dan Wolff at Smoke Mountain Magic. 423-943-7294 is his cell. http://www.smokymtmagic.com is the web site.
Alittle back ground, Dan now builds mini cube zags and other illusions that chalet stop building(with complete building rights). Give him a call he's a great guy to work with. hope this helps. Andrew Hyder |
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5444 Posts |
Arnomagie you don’t need a latex lemon. I simply cut open a lemon, hollow it out (including cutting away as much of the rind as possible) and glue it closed again. It will pass as a lemon and will collapse well enough to demonstrate that it has vanished. It is an old bit I was told about in the 60’s by a carnival magician.
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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estone Regular user 126 Posts |
If you want to use latex fruit, get ahold of Todd Kupper, his site http://www.taddo.com
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Autumn Morning Star Grammar Hostess Today, I corrected grammar in 1378 Posts |
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On 2008-08-26 21:38, Harry Murphy wrote: I have been looking at a number of OLECs and found your post while doing research. Yes, I know this topic is four years old, but this is a really great suggestion. The one problem with the entire OLEC unit is that it does not fly well, especially with the limitations on baggage today. I am going to try and make this version and then, if I like the way it fits in my show, get a full-sized version for the big show. Great suggestion, Harry!
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Michael238 Inner circle 1192 Posts |
Didn't someone sell a parakeet or canary that looked real, but was mechanical?
I thought Malloy used to, but I did not see it on the web site. Is this still out there? |
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afoi Regular user malaysia 142 Posts |
What determine FIRST creator?
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MagicalFreak3 Loyal user 222 Posts |
Great topic with fantastic ideas and resources here.
I heard about a version which doesn't use a cage ? Or the canary appears OUTSIDE the cage. Is this routine available ? I'm on the verge of buying one right now. But if there is a version where the Canary appears outside the cage, or doesn't require a cage, then I would consider ourchasing it. The best OLEC routine I have seen would be this one here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN3xsBxuM0M I love how the Canary appears outside the cage and wish if there was a cage like that, but I guess David Jonathan Bass had one custom made for him. |
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john wills Special user 939 Posts |
AmrKhaled,
I have told you already that this version is NOT for sale. For weeks you are talking in circles now, almost crying like a small child. You've got honest advices, but you don't like to hear that. So if you want to perform it this way, you HAVE to contact David Jonathan Bas and ask him for permission to work with his creation and pay him. POINT! |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
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On 2012-01-27 21:29, Autumn Morning Star wrote: If you want a version that can fly well, then take a look at the Mikame Canary cage or Abbott's Canary Cage. The effect can be accomplished with this very small cage as well. "Think outside the box" to use a old cliché and you will have a version that is just as good as the large cages that are difficult to travel with. |
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5444 Posts |
Nice old thread coming up for air I see.
Autumn if you stop back by here I wonder if you built a routine that could fly easier and how it played for you. AmrKhaled go re-read my post. You can produce the bird easily anywhere! Inside an un-gimmicked cage or outside an un-gimmicked cage. You do not need a gimmicked cage to perform this trick. That said a special cage will make your life easier. I have outlined exactly what you would require to perform the routine similar (but not exactly the same as) the routine you linked to. In fact any dove worker could probably coach you on two or three different methods that would serve your needs. You simply have to stop thinking you need a specially made cage to duplicate the effect you want. You don't. Bill makes a great recommendation for downsizing the routine and still let it play huge. Either of the cages bill mentions will work fantastic for the standard routine. All the props can be carried easily inside the cage (except the living bird or birds). I'd transport then and a small travel carrier and keep the magic prop clean.
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