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ThSecret Regular user 147 Posts 
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Dorian that is sort of how I was feeling when I first picked up IT. I guess sleights, angles and acting natural help conceal the tip? Technique, practice and misdirection? It's funny, I'll watch someone like Jay Sankey perform an effect and be like what, how? Then he explains it and shows the tip, and I'm thinking that's so simple how will this even play out in a real situation, no way it will work. (Yet it fooled me so it must work haha.)
"A play does not take place on stage but in the minds of the spectators."
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Rabinak New user Czech Republic 35 Posts
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Just do not use TT like youtubers. You can use different type of loading and stealing it.
Most importantly you should not be predictable! |
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cbguy Veteran user 350 Posts
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Jimhlou
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On Dec 13, 2016, jimhlou wrote: No he is NOT black. Mr. Ash is an old white guy who runs Mr. Ashes Magic Shop n Chicago, not far from where Magic Inc. used to be. No one will notice a thumb tip unless you bring attention to it. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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On Dec 21, 2016, cbguy wrote: I could tell you Mr. Ash stories for days. One of the NICEST people in the world! I miss him and Bonnie since moving decades ago. The most welcoming magic shop you will ever have the privilege of darkening the doorstep of. Funny man. A great spirit. I once watched him use a blue novelty whistle as a thumb tip. And no he is not blue.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts
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Hi Danny!
I remember Ash Baboorian very well! --and, happy to hear that he is still "with us"!
SNEAKY, UNDERHANDED, DEVIOUS,& SURREPTITIOUS ITINERANT MOUNTEBANK
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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I am as well.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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cbguy Veteran user 350 Posts
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EVERYONE should check out this short documentary about Mr. Ash. The guy is a legend. He's funny. He loves people and he got me started in this business more than 20 years ago, when he gave me my first copy of Royal Road to Card Magic. https://vimeo.com/86908002
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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He started many. His was my first magic shop I ever visited. Not many compare.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Kleberdexter New user Brazil 69 Posts
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On Dec 4, 2016, Dick Oslund wrote: I was looking for a thumb tip that has his color that looks like my skin. After I read this post of Dick, I stop that. Thanks, one more time Dick. |
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts
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"Tu es bienvenidos, amigo!
One of these days, I'll explain about the "double ended" TT.
SNEAKY, UNDERHANDED, DEVIOUS,& SURREPTITIOUS ITINERANT MOUNTEBANK
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Damian Veteran user 363 Posts
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Dick,
Years ago I stopped by a magic shop in either Phoenix or Tuscon, can't remember which, just now. Nice big shop w tables for sessioning, etc. I remember I bought a TT and an older gentleman, who I assume was the owner, "adjusted" it for me. He used a hobby knife and turned it into essentially a dye-tube w a flap. Did you have anything to do with that, or is that in any way related to your double-ended TT? |
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts
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No! My "double ender" is......well, I'll tell you the whole story....
It was back in the early '90s. I was doing a lecture tour, and, ended up near New Orleans. I planned to spend a day or two, EATING! (What else does one do in New Orleans?) Tom Ladshaw had a small magic shop, so I dropped in to say hello. He was unpacking a large cardboard carton filled with Vernet TTs. He bought them in bulk, and packaged them himself. (Cheaper, that way) So, I helped bag up the TTs. As I reached into the box, I grabbed an "uncut" TT. (Explanation of "uncut": TTs are "blow molded". Ya can't make ONE TT. From the molding machine, you "get" a "double ended TT". It's like two TTs stuck together at the ends opposite the thmb nail. The double ender is cut in half, and, now you have two TTs. So, I grabbed the double, and, told Tom: "This is my salary!" He laughed, and said, "You work cheap!" I have fun when I walk into a B&M shop where they don't know me. I act real timid, and tell the counterman that I had "sent to Chicago for this." (holding it so only the "nail" end shows) "and, it doesn't work!" When he reaches for it, he is surprised! and, then breaks into a laugh. No! It's not for sale! (hee hee)
SNEAKY, UNDERHANDED, DEVIOUS,& SURREPTITIOUS ITINERANT MOUNTEBANK
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TheRealMagicMike Regular user Las Vegas, NV 178 Posts
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I remember buying a thumbtip many years ago (probably in the 80's) from Hank Lee's Magic Factory that had a slit at the top of the nail. It looked normal but you would squeeze the edges of the nail to buckle the tip and pull out the silk (or whatever you vanished).
I can't remember who released it... I'm wondering if it was Steve Dusheck ??? Dick's sounds much cooler !!! |
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Kleberdexter New user Brazil 69 Posts
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I bought mine some months ago its a vernet TT.
I bought that because the seller says that it is " the best TT in the world" ..rs I like it, but I'm new to magic and I didn't have others TT. The only " problem" is about the color, but after some advices from Dick it's not more a problem. |
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Brandon G New user 13 Posts
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I'll second what Rabinak said and suggest different handling.
There's a section in The Magic of Michael Ammar that's dedicated to 'TT Finesse'. Also going to second 'Don't run if you're not being chased.' The only time I've EVER been caught out is when I was too rushed to ditch. Had I just been casual, it never would have happened. |
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TheMightyRicardo Loyal user 225 Posts
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On Jan 8, 2017, TheRealMagicMike wrote: Sounds like Flip Tip by Rocco Richard |
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RayRannala New user Tampa, FL 32 Posts
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I bought my first TT from Tannens in NYC in the 70s after seeing a street performer doing the vanishing silk. I was really skeptical that this would work so I didn't use it until the 80s when I joined the SAM. I built up the courage, became a bit angle conscious and IT WORKED! I have been using it regularly every time I perform and have never been caught. I did have a few kids ask if I used that thumb thing a few times, but I simply explained that this was sometimes used by beginners but I have never used one. That response always worked. In more than 20 years I have never been caught. Use it with confidence and care.
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imgic Inner circle Moved back to Midwest to see 1338 Posts
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Lonnie Chèvre in his Penguin lecture does some TT work including a silk vanish that had Dan Harlan fooled...
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
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ThSecret Regular user 147 Posts
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I just found a VERY cool way of using a thumb tip for a specific effect. I'm not even going to explain it, but when I saw how it was done, I was like "oohhh finalllyyy, so that's how it's done! :O." It does involve some construction of the thumb tip, and might make it difficult to go through the airport, but I will say no more. Gaetan Bloom describes it in his Penguin Live Lecture.
"A play does not take place on stage but in the minds of the spectators."
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ringmaster Inner circle Memphis, Down in Dixie 1974 Posts
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On Dec 4, 2016, puggo wrote: I second the Patric Page,doubly so if you recently bought a Bio-bender.
One of the last living 10-in-one performers. I wanted to be in show business the worst way, and that was it.
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