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CARDTALK New user Phoenix Arizona 32 Posts |
Hi Guys
Just thought I would ask you all what you think are the best books on Blackjack and Card Counting? Many thanks! |
JasonEngland V.I.P. Las Vegas, NV 1728 Posts |
I would suggest starting with Arnold Snyder's Big Book of Blackjack. It's an overview book and it was published fairly recently (last 10 years or so).
I would also read every post about blackjack on Mike Shackleford's "Wizard of Odds" website and forum. Jason
Eternal damnation awaits anyone who questions God's unconditional love. --Bill Hicks
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CARDTALK New user Phoenix Arizona 32 Posts |
Hi Jason,
I see we meet on the other side too haha, never miss a perfect faro and all that jazz! Thank you so much I will look into the info you have supplied, although I have played poker for many years I have never really got into Blackjack so I thought now is the time. I came across a website called counting Edge.Com? would you recommend? Chris |
Cagliostro Inner circle 2478 Posts |
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On Apr 7, 2017, CARDTALK wrote: You may be coming to the party a little too late. |
CARDTALK New user Phoenix Arizona 32 Posts |
What are you implying?
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Artie Fufkin Special user 853 Posts |
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On Apr 7, 2017, CARDTALK wrote: That you're late to the party If you're going to get serious, dig up a copy of Grosjean's "Beyond Counting". Be prepared to give up a lung, or take out a second mortgage though. |
CARDTALK New user Phoenix Arizona 32 Posts |
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On Apr 7, 2017, Artie Fufkin wrote: Haha, ooh I see, I am under no illusions I know it take a lot to dedicate yourself to these things and I'm willing to work hard!. Many thanks for the info!. In my younger years I was more interested in magical gambling demos but now I want to learn the "real work" |
CARDTALK New user Phoenix Arizona 32 Posts |
Wow, just did a search for that book... $8000??? Hmm
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Cagliostro Inner circle 2478 Posts |
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On Apr 7, 2017, CARDTALK wrote: I am not implying, but simply stating a fact. Unfortunately you have missed the BJ "good-times" by about 20 years or more. You probably can pick up some money scraps here and there but surveillance will pick up on you if you try to win any real money single-o and if you are good at what you do. Probably can fly under the radar with small time play here and there, but nowadays straight card counting single-0 is a dead number in my opinion. In other words, "you came to the party too late." |
JasonEngland V.I.P. Las Vegas, NV 1728 Posts |
What Cag is saying is that the days of sitting down and counting your way to decent money all by yourself are essentially gone. Can you count cards at the Hooters at $5 a hand and play for an hour before anyone says anything? Yeah, probably. Can you count cards on a cruise ship for small money still? Sure.
But walk into Aria, or the MGM, or the Wynn and count cards while betting black ($100) chips and you'll be shown the door very quickly. As soon as they determine you're a threat, they'll just ask you (or tell you) to leave. Simple as that. Still fun as a mental exercise for chump change, but it's no way to make a living any more for the most part. That said, knowing how to count cards is still a stepping stone technique to other, more interesting and profitable advantage play techniques. Jason
Eternal damnation awaits anyone who questions God's unconditional love. --Bill Hicks
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CARDTALK New user Phoenix Arizona 32 Posts |
Thank you both for your advice, it is a interest to me to learn these skill's as enjoyment. As regards to making a living from it or using counting techniques at the card table in Vegas.. then no, that is not my interest.
It may sound silly and a waste of time to learn these's techniques for no apparent reason but like I said it is for enjoyment. I have been interested in Gambling moves and routines since I was 14 and this is just another string to my bow. Many thanks! |
happy003 New user 42 Posts |
In addition to Michael Shackleford, Dr. Eliot Jacobson has some good stuff. I was at G2E a few years ago and these two were going back and forth on game protection of Mississippi Stud. It was quite entertaining.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On Apr 7, 2017, JasonEngland wrote: Ummm yes and no. First off anyone playing for serious money would probably avoid the strip here in Vegas. Continuous shuffle machines 6 to 5 payouts on blackjack make it so counting is nullified completely. The rules at MGM or any of the name houses make it rough. That is not to say you can't find the games to play and play big and win. You only need about a 10 check spread to really do well. Some downtown places plus local hang outs offer favorable rules. Plus if you don't mind traveling it can be very lucrative. In New Orleans there is a house they don't even hit soft 17. $5 to $1,000 limits. You can get a great check spread between high and low counts and do quite well. The way to not be shown the door is not to be stupid obvious about it. Escalating the bets not jumping them is the key. Also avoid some of the more obvious counting plays. Should be part of any seriousplayers game anyhow. Counting can and does make money, even alone. Millions? Probably not.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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