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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
To this point I have avoided purchasing "Delight" because I saw a guy demoing these in a magic shop, and it was painfully obvious that he was wearing a thumbtip. I could see it on his thumb very clearly.
Now my question is this: Was it just the fault of the performer that it was exposed, (poor handling), or are there guys who use the trick EFFECTIVELY without exposing? Am I missing something here? Am I missing out on purchasing an execellent effect because of one shoddy performance? Or, on the other hand, is the effect really as bad as the guy made it look?
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
When done right, the thumb isn't exposed and the light appears. Unfortunately, these have been marketted to death to laymen, so pro's avoid it.
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JudgeBean Regular user 125 Posts |
Yes and daffydoug you see the thumbtip that is invisble to laypeople.
We know what to look for. we look at the other hand when someone does a vanish...we looking for the string placement. we look at the TT. We look where no one usually does. Our awareness has changed us. JudgeBean |
gentleman New user 51 Posts |
I agree it has been marketed a lot you can see them everywhere they even sell them on the stret. The only reaso there so popular is because of how easy they are to use.
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
Now I am beginning to see the (DE)light.
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On 2004-05-02 13:12, JudgeBean wrote: You must be kidding! When you go to a party and someone says -- "We have a friend at the office who does magic. Do you have one of those fake thumbs like his?" or "Why does 'so and so' have a bandaid on his thumb during part of his show?" you know just how invisible the TT is. The secret of using a TT is not to put it where the spectators actually can see it.
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jlibby Inner circle 1044 Posts |
Last summer, I helped an actor friend learn some magic for the role of Merlyn in CAMELOT. One of the items was De-Lite which he used to simulate catching the nymph Nimue (ala Tinkerbell). It looked GREAT on stage, he performed it beautifully. So De-Lite can be very effective, if it's used properly.
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Vick Inner circle It's taken me 10+ years to make 1120 Posts |
Daffydoug - it was the manner in which the D-Lite was being handled that made it so visible (plus your knowledge of illusions)
If you use/handle them properly and keep your movements fluid they are hard to detect, I go as far as to put the "light" in a spectators hand or to pass it through their hand
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amagish New user Dan Turcotte 57 Posts |
The d'lite if performed well (orthe FingerPhaser My preferance) people will enjoy seeing it happen. Just don't over do it. Change to producing sponge balls or the like.
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Jordini Inner circle 2765 Posts |
It's best in dark places or on stage. If it's light enough to actually see your thumbs clearly, it's too light.
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Danny Diamond Inner circle Connecticut 1400 Posts |
One of the best D'Lite tips (no pun intended) I can give is to have a source to take the heat off you. If you are pulling the light from thin air, then the only possible source for the audience to assume the light comes from, is your hands. This puts all the heat on your hands/fingers. I often produce the lights from a glowing ice cube in a glass of water. I got the plastic ice cube with a light in it from a bar which was putting them in drinks one night as a promotional item. When I pluck the lights from the ice cube in the glass, ALL the heat is on the cube and the glass, which can freely be examined after the effect. I have had NO ONE ever even look at my thumbs when doing a routine this way, they just want to check out that funky ice cube and they want to take light from it too.
So, that's my advice, have a source you are pulling the lights from, it will draw the heat away from your thumbs.
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Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts |
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On 2004-05-10 01:25, amagish wrote: Dan, I've never used D'lites but you've just given me an idea (probably thought of already by many who use D'lites). Use the D'lites to produce an object from the light. (This is the flip side of Danny Diamond's idea of producing the light from the object.) How about using the D'lite to have sponge balls appear in the hand into which you apparently are placing the light? You could do this to produce 2 or 3 sponge balls all at once and then begin your sponge ball routine. Or, you could use the D'lite whenever you were going to produce any sponge ball (i.e., whenever you needed to introduce an additional ball). By using the D'lite to initially produce a sponge ball(s), you make the "two sponge balls from one" production (not using the D'lite) that much stronger by association. ("Gosh Mawd!! He was just producing those dang things out of thin air anyway he wanted to and anytime he wanted to!! Sometime he produced them using light; sometimes he just pulled one apart into two!!") My apologies if this is a standard use of the D'lite. Since I have never used them and have just recently seen them for the first time, I not up on D'lite magic. The above thought just came to me (after reading Danny Diamond's post immediately above) and I thought that I'd write it down before it became as wispy an apparition as the D'lite light itself. Just a thought. Mike
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dg Regular user 122 Posts |
I agree with Danny Diamond, Saw somone perform with a d'lite and 2 shot glasses. One glass in each hand and made it look like he was throwing the light from one glass to the other, all the heat on the glasses and not on his thumbs. And as other people have said, we do view things differently to the layman.
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Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts |
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On 2004-05-10 11:34, dg wrote: DG, Thanks for the idea. I'm going to have a friend of mind try this out so I can see it "in action". I'm having a tough time envisioning this effect since with "throwing" all you would have are alternating blinking lights (i.e., no light movement arcing from one glass to the other). Maybe that is suffcient enough to carry the illusion with strong pantomime but I'm just not "seeing" it in my mind's eye. Now, "pouring"...Ah! Now that I can envision more easily since the distance bewteen the glasses is so small. Mike
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treysdaddy New user 92 Posts |
My favorite way to "start" a delite is to use something like has been described above. I have done it successfully by having an adult aim a laser pointer at the wall or my shirt and "pulling" some of the light from it. I have also done it with one of those light up pens drug companies give away. In each case, the kids and even some adults want to check out the light source instead of my hands. One time, a child had some light up fake teeth for a vampire costume that I used to start the show. I like delites as long as they don't go on too long.
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bunkyhenry Special user NYC Metro 828 Posts |
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On 2004-05-02 12:33, MagicChris wrote: I'm a pro. I don't avoid them. In fact, I have a routine that just waits for someone who knows about the D'lites. This person ends up holding a 5 REAL red lights at the end. |
Gipstein New user Connecticut 76 Posts |
My wife and I do a routine with D'Lites. We each have two, so we can pass the light between us, do our own little riffs, and so on.
We also have the D'Lite wine glasses, se we fill them up, use our thumb lights to magically transfer the light to our glasses, then drink up. Finally, the candle that has been used to start all this (we grab the light from it at the start and return it to it at he end) is a Fantasio candle to silk. After we return our lights to the flame, I blow it out, flick it in the air and it turn to a silk. One show, I offered her the silk, and under cover of leaning forward with it I stole a flower from my inside coat pocket and quickly work it into the silk I was offering. She "unwrapped" the silk to find the flower. It is a very romantic and visual routine. We set it to the music of "Candle in the Wind" and don't say a word. We keep it moving. It has gotten good responses. It does help to have the performing space darkened a bit. Watching a video if us, though, I think I would trim it back a bit. It does get kind of old and loses its punch ... like anything ... if the surprise wears off. I also keep one handy and have had good results plucking the light from a birthday cake flame, candles at a dinner table, whatever. I am a photographer and I explain it with a shrug saying that "I know how to handle light." Merloc
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giochi Special user 502 Posts |
D'lights, used in the standard way, are definetly not my style of magic.
However, I use them as a way to enhance certain effects such as metal bending (they can see the metal geting hot) , a variation of Luke Jermays 'Rose effect' (the aura or the life energy of the petals can be seen as they are plucked) and even as a quick way to get someones attention. As I pass a neon (red) sign or a parked cars lit tail light I will casually show my hand empty, grab light from the tail light and eat it, that's it... the process takes about 3-5 seconds. Anything after that the spectators will begin to answer there own questions. If you do it for a very short amount of time they will begin to question there vision/sanity. I want them to ask themselves "did I just see that?" I then immediatly perform something else while not giving them a chance to make sense of what they just saw. It takes it from being a clever manipulation of a neat trick and makes it more of a f*** with there head. For some great ways to use D'light to enhance other effects check out Sean Fields 'Explicit Content' Also, if your into hypnosis this is a great way to hypnotize children. Peace |
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