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Ray Pierce Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 2604 Posts	Posted: Jul 14, 2020 12:34 am 1 Quote: On Jul 4, 2020, countrymaven wrote: Ray and Alan I am familiar with the ungimmicked methods you use. They are not all that... all that clean. Just rope puzzles. why not make a clean open no joints, one rope restoration. Then go on and hand it out and give it to the audience? The commercial versions given, are as I noted, fairly junky. It would be better yet just to do an uncomfortable and quick and hectic "ungimmicked quickie version." But if these work for you, God bless you. I just keep going until what I do gets gasps and I am accused of being a sorcerer, etc. I am not content to entertain or to fool, like puzzles do as well. Unless you've seen mine in person (which certainly is possible) I'm not sure how familiar you are with it. I'll continue to use it as it gets the prerequisite gasps I want and elevates it from a "puzzle" (which I'll admit that some routines are) to real magic according to the reports from the viewers who have seen it. As always... presentation and psychology is everything. Ray Pierce
countrymaven Inner circle 1428 Posts	Posted: Jul 17, 2020 04:23 am 0 Thanks Ray. You are now fully a member of the secret MC sorcerers hall of fame. Because as you said, it is the reactions you get that make it true magic in their minds. I take back what I said. I trust your word because you know from your performances what is magic in their minds. So cheers to you!!! You are awesome and your effect is hidden from most magicians. Maybe that is the best way to keep a miracle your own. hehe.
Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts	Posted: Jul 19, 2020 09:41 pm 0 Quote: On Jul 4, 2020, countrymaven wrote: Ray and Alan I am familiar with the ungimmicked methods you use. They are not all that... all that clean. Just rope puzzles. why not make a clean open no joints, one rope restoration. Then go on and hand it out and give it to the audience? The commercial versions given, are as I noted, fairly junky. It would be better yet just to do an uncomfortable and quick and hectic "ungimmicked quickie version." But if these work for you, God bless you. I just keep going until what I do gets gasps and I am accused of being a sorcerer, etc. I am not content to entertain or to fool, like puzzles do as well. You haven't seen them performed properly. Nick Lewin really sold me on the Pat Conway handling, when I saw him perform it. bigALmagic.com
wally Inner circle 1830 Posts	Posted: Dec 29, 2020 04:03 pm 0 Hi Ray. Wish I could buy your Ultimate Nightmare
countrymaven Inner circle 1428 Posts	Posted: Jan 1, 2021 04:03 am 0 Frankly, I was being nice to someone with a semi retarded method. OK? BEing nice. Sometimes I am just too nice. But look at it with 20/20 vision, and it is just a super inferior method of doing things. I have seen it I have it. It depresses me to think that audiences were subjected to this. Blah. But do it for a paying audience, and you wouldn't get paid to come back again like I do with my CLEAN EFFECT. I then go into a cut and restored and hand it out. So there try that, Quasimodo.
Alsmagical New user 15 Posts	Posted: Nov 1, 2023 11:17 am 0 This effect is still as good as good old quality wine . What’s needs to be considered from what I have seen in the past 40 years of magical experience is the patter which is either non existent or delivered in an unconvincing way, We must improve our acting performance and get up to date with an entertaining story line, i have 4 versions of this effect and select the one suitable for the audience , Sorry if I appear arrogant but trying to be helpful.
Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts	Posted: Nov 4, 2023 07:54 am 0 I'd never use a mgnt gimmick for the effect. The workarounds are too much work and I've seen otherwise good performers botch it because they use gimmicks that have to be controlled. bigALmagic.com
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