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TOBIAS Loyal user Seattle Magic 221 Posts |
Diagnal Palm Shift,
I do this move all the time, and very well. Although I have one problem, and no one notices but I would feel better if my index finger would not stick out as the card is palmed. I used S.W.E. book to learn it. Any ideas where or what could help?
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RandyWakeman V.I.P. Plainfield, ILLINOIS 1617 Posts |
I've always preferred the "Left-Handed Palm" from the "Card Magic of LePaul."
You might find it a better alternative. |
MagicSponge Regular user 141 Posts |
Hey everyone!
I agree with Randy Wakeman's suggestion (or maybe I will personally refer to him as a 'master'...ok so its obvious I'm a fan of Marlo and Randy Wakeman. And I thank Randy Wakeman for keeping the classic works of Marlo alive.) The Left Handed Palm is a great move. And it is rather simple. Mike Close teaches Paul LePauls wonderful move on 'The Power of Palimg' but I would highly suggest getting the actual book by LePaul (card magic of lepaul) because there is so much great sleight of hand technique in there (and some catchy routines) The left handed palm and DPS (diagonal palm shift) do accomplish the same thing. I love the DPS as well. It is a move however that you need to adjust to fit yourself. I would reccomend reading 'Annotated Erdnase' (by Darwin Ortiz) for the real work on the DPS. Sincerely, Doug-The Magic Sponge |
christopher carter Special user 660 Posts |
Paul Chosse's work in one of the Card Finnesse books is also very well worth examining.
As far as the finger flare goes, I'll send you a pm with an idea that might help. --Christopher Carter |
cardguy Inner circle Queens, New York 1171 Posts |
I love the DPS. Sometimes I just sit and do it over and over because I like watching the intricate mechanics behind it. The beauty of the DPS is that it is so quick and disarming. The card is out of the deck before anyone knows that anything happens. As soon as the card is in the deck it comes out the back door invisibly. What the spectator should see is that you push the card in the middle of the deck and immediately hand them the deck to shuffle. It is lightning fast!
As of now, it is still a practice move for me. I have not used it in any real world performances yet, even though other magicians say it is practically invisible when I do it. But I know it is not perfect yet. I want to be able to pull it off when my hands are being burned. I know of Lepaul's Left Hand Palm, but I feel more comfortable with the DPS, maybe because I learned it first. But, I'll read Lepaul's description more carefully and give it another shot. I might find it usefull.
Frank G. a.k.a. Cardguy
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Garrett Nelson Special user 644 Posts |
Try looking into the Veron Revelations tape 7-8.
That has Vernon's take on the move. You might find it useful. |
variable75 New user 66 Posts |
I know the DPS is covered in Card College 3...maybe you could gleam some knowledge from that fine fine source!
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Denis Behr Special user Germany 703 Posts |
I always found the technical variation by Vernon easier for me to execute. That is splitting the move into two squaring movements instead of doing it in one movement as described by Erdnase. (See Card College)
Since you said that you are using the Erdnase book to learn the sleight you might consider taking a look at this handling. Greetings, Denis |
gmartins New user Portugal 88 Posts |
I never did the DPS when performing. I think the angles are not so good but done well it's a beautiful thing to see (or better, don't see! ). If it's used for palming a card, I think it worths the time needed to perfect the move, because is maybe the most direct way to palm a card after returning it to the deck. But if it's for controlling it to the bottom, then I think there are easier ways of doing so.
But it's an excelent move. But not for me.
Gonçalo Martins
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
you could try curling your index finger under the deck until it is basically "in palm"
does anyone feel that this would be inappropriate?
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Brian Proctor Inner circle Somewhere 2323 Posts |
Is the diagonal palm shift in any way related to the tenkai steal from daryl?
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Dorian Rhodell Inner circle San Francisco, CA. 1633 Posts |
Ok,
I'll take a shot at answering your question Tobias. First off, let me state that the index finger, according to the book should be curled underneath. When the actual palm is executed your index finger should be shaded by the hand holding the deck (the other hand). As the deck is handed to the spectator you quickly put your hand behind your back to avoid any suspicion at all. Ok, that was sarcastic...sorry. The only way I can see your index finger sticking out is if you perform the DPS with the deck on its long side like Jennings sometimes did. Does that answer your question? Hope so. Take care, Dorian |
Euan Inner circle 1041 Posts |
Hi
All this talk of the Diagonal Palm Shift has made me want to learn it, I think I've almost nailed it although I don't go into full palm, I just cop it instead. I recorded a video of it if you want to have a look .. http://www21.brinkster.com/magicden/sleights.html It's in the palm section. I only started learning it yesterday so I reckon it still needs a bit of work. |
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