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tdaube Loyal user Nevada 229 Posts |
Paperclipped, Card In Wallet, Mystery Box... all could be a nice ending for this routine.
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rtgreen Inner circle Portland, Oregon 1322 Posts |
I do a similar effect with what sounds to be the same technique.
I present mine as a challenge effect and before I begin, I have the spectator choose a prediction card which is unknown and put in my pocket. I then have a card selected, returned to the deck, and shuffled by a spectator. The cards are spread on the table and I am able to "feel" the card by running my hand over the cards. Perhaps they think I somehow manipulated the card when it was returned to the deck. To prove this is not true, I simply have a card glimpsed and the deck again shuffled by a spectator. Again I can find the card. Perhaps I somehow have marked the face of the card. To prove this not true, I offer to do the effect with the cards face down. To help me concentration, however, the spectator must sign the card before shuffling it into the deck. The cards are spread face down on the table and I eliminate the the cards a group at a time, showing the faces as I do so. Finally, all of the cards have been shown except for one left face down on the table. It must be the card. When the card is show, I am wrong! It is not the selected card! We quickly check the cards again and their card is not found. I then ask what card they selected and when they tell me, I can't believe them. How could they have chosen and signed a card that has been in my pocket the entire time. I reach into my pocket and remove the card that was selected at the beginning and it is seen to be the signed card. If you want to know more, just let me know... |
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Mike Walton Special user Chicago 984 Posts |
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On 2004-06-21 15:22, prospero wrote: ...and it's easy to convince the spectator that you actually read their mind for the first two revelations? Rather than continue to write the same information in CAPS, how about if you better define and clarify what you're seeking. |
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prospero Special user Elsewhere 572 Posts |
Excellent idea, Mr. Walton.
Doing a card-to-whatever effect is always, regardless of the presentation, taken as a display of technical skill. It is much easier for the spectator to believe that I somehow used my deep knowledge of the human psyche to somehow produce an effect similar to ESP, than for them to believe that I "magically" teleported a card to my wallet, pocket, paperclip, forehead, mouth, back, or whatever. If they select and sign a card and it jumps to my wallet, they will conclude that I somehow put it there--physically. First, pick-a-card, glimpse-a-card, cut-a-card, whatever are all associated with "card tricks" and so when they select a card they are expecting a simple trick, not evidence of unknowable powers. If I produce evidence that I knew what card they were going to pick, they will (probably) still not believe in ESP, but to them it will still be more than a card trick. An interesting idea just popped into my head. I believe that this topic is discussed in either Derren Brown's "Absolute Magic" or "Pure Effect." |
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S.Segal Special user San Diego 949 Posts |
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On 2004-06-20 19:41, tdaube wrote: I believe this is a Gary Kurtz idea... S.Segal |
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tdaube Loyal user Nevada 229 Posts |
I wouldn't be surprised if it were a Gary Kurtz idea - the guy's brilliant. Does anyone know what he's up to these days?
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S.Segal Special user San Diego 949 Posts |
Last I heard he was strictly into Mentalism...
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rtgreen Inner circle Portland, Oregon 1322 Posts |
Just a side note, Prospero, are you familiar with Rick Maue's card in wallet routine? It is an excellent example of how to take a basic magic effect and treat it as pure mentalism.
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Mike Walton Special user Chicago 984 Posts |
How about this...
Stop after your first two revelations. The downside of including a third mentalism effect in your set is that the potential for surprise is low because you've already predicted correctly twice. What you've accomplished, with their mental focus of course, is amazing and impossible. It's difficult to then do something more impossible. If the goal of your set is astonishment, then you've reached your goal after 2. Just proceed with a nice variation of hippity-hoppity rabbits.... |
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tdaube Loyal user Nevada 229 Posts |
...Last I heard he was strictly into Mentalism...
Thanks for the update S.Segal. It figures - a lot of pros seem to find more marketing potential in that area than in magic. tdaube ...Stop after your first two revelations... I don't know. I kind of like the 1-2-3 punch. A lot of posts here have had some great ideas to improve the ending. tdaube Posted: Jun 21, 2004 6:57pm ------------------------------------------ Just curious, prospero. Did you find any idea(s) here that you used and like? tdaube |
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Mike Walton Special user Chicago 984 Posts |
But the original poster wanted something mentalism oriented and I don't see anything that is so surprising after two amazing revelations that could be a kicker.
Plus, if you've knocked them out after two punches, you don't need the third punch unless you're filling time which could be a concern. |
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leefoley3 Elite user Texas 402 Posts |
I agree with Mr. Turkey. It all depends on your performing situation. I'm assuming that you are performing for a group and are not doing walk around stuff. If this is the case, too much of the same type of effect could be overkill.
It's been discussed many times and I think most would agree that in general laypeople tend to actually believe in mentalism as oppossed to "magic". When it comes to performing a trick, routine,etc. People know that you are using slieghts or something along those lines. When you "read their minds" it completely baffles them. Just something to think about Lee.
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prospero Special user Elsewhere 572 Posts |
I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough. I do not put these three effects in a set together, I was only trying to choose one of them.
Tdaube: Definitely--I'm using the idea of stating it as a prediction before the trick, and I'm looking into Dorian's idea of "The Mystery Card." They're all great ideas, though. |
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