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Steven Conner Inner circle 2720 Posts |
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On Dec 15, 2021, Chollet wrote: Thanks for your comment. Personally, I never thought the Off by One was very impressive. Best Steve
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Kavanaugh New user St. Louis, MO 9 Posts |
I received mine yesterday. I have personally always loved the “off by one” since learning it through Kolassal Killer, but have used equivoque all the way down to the 4 cards of one single suit with no problem as to the lay audience that even suspects what is going on then realize Ithey still have a choice of all 13 cards leaving it unexplained. I personally always love effects and actually prefer those in which the audience thinks the magician has messed up and then somehow it was part of the gag the whole time. Some in an audience feel this way and the others are sure you must have messed up “intentionally” as you are going to come out in the end with the right answer. I liked the idea of a wallet containing the cards simply to keep them clean. I always say that an enemy should come back as something in my pocket as I don’t know what my pockets do but they destroy everything that spends anytime in them. At the end of the day, what we each need to always remember is what was our reaction when we saw a principle such as this the first time we saw it in action and let that guide if you personally use it from that day forward. It is why to some a principle is a gem and to others it may be far from. It is why I never buy any magic site unseen. After performing some thing, no matter how great it is, we all sometimes wonder if it is any good simply out of repetition of doing it for so long. I then can always remember my first reaction and know if it was good or not. I have to say that I actually prefer it when I get to use the off by one side of the card and have always leaned towards hoping I would be off one performing the routine for many years.
Back to the wallet though, it is definitely bigger than need be, but I performed it all day to people that have known me for a long time and know that I don’t mind them speaking freely. The size of the wallet was of no concern to any of them. Time will tell. As a side note, I modify my envelopes to have a flap inside so that when I remove one card I can flash the envelope empty as I only use four cards total in this routine. |
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Roki Special user London 749 Posts |
I can't see how this is any different or better than Kentons original effect which doesn't require any big wallet/obvious prop? Envelopes/gaff cards can help reduce the space needed as can equivoque. But can't see why anyone would want to pay for this.
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The Baldini Inner circle I some how pounded in 2445 Posts |
Riki, it’s just a different approach. Large wallet to some people make sense to others it doesn’t. Personally I like it, especially since it looks like it can only go one way due to the clasp.
In the wallet can be used from any other effects. I’ve had fantastic results great reactions with this. |
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EndersGame Inner circle Reviewer EndersGame 2195 Posts |
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On Dec 15, 2021, cardone wrote: Can you post a link here to the youtube video of your review? BTW, Giobbi's product page specifically include the following "Comments from the Author": ● "One of the “props” is an old-style Himber Wallet, i.e., one with a clasp, that is in and of itself worth the price of admission." ● "The envelopes used, like the Himber Wallet, as multi-function props that open infinite doors to the realm of Multiple Outs." ● "This is not recommended for beginners, but for experienced real-world performers. (But you can still buy it as long as it is available and wait for the experience which will inevitably come if you perform.)" So no secrets as far as any of those things go. |
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fybd88 New user 34 Posts |
I was fortunate to see Giobbi himself perform this trick for me on his lecture. I was the one keeping the wallet momentarily, and the one sitting beside called a card. It was the last trick on that night and the only one he didn't teach. No equivoque was needed on that night and this trick shocked a lot of us. The Off by One seemed natural, which means the magician's ability to predict was drawing to the limit of adjacency, although I have to admit I don't now that principle then. I love the thinking and nuance what Giobbi put into this trick, making it impossible to laymen.
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EndersGame Inner circle Reviewer EndersGame 2195 Posts |
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On Dec 9, 2021, cardone wrote: To be fair, Nick Locapo explains at the very start of the instructional video that the teaching section with Giobbi features an older wallet he already owned, because it was filmed before the custom wallet they made according to Giobbi and Penguin's requirements was available. Quote:
On Dec 9, 2021, cardone wrote: Here's the video with the review that Adam Cardone put together, as promised. His review of The Prophecy starts at 18:12, and runs for around 40 minutes. Major points of criticism he makes include: - he doesn't like the quality of wallet - he's disappointed there's no real instruction about doing an envelope switch at the end - he thinks the Invisible Deck is simpler and stronger For the record, Craig Petty is much more positive in his assessment of everything, giving it a score of 100% in his review. His review of The Prophecy starts at 1 minute in, and runs for about 10 minutes: |
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EndersGame Inner circle Reviewer EndersGame 2195 Posts |
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On Jun 11, 2022, EndersGame wrote: One other major criticism that Adam Cordone makes in his review that I forgot to mention: - he thinks the "one off" concept weakens the effect It's also worth observing that Adam's review is shaped by the unique perspective he's coming from: he's a working performer that does a card to envelope routine of his own, and he was hoping he'd get ideas for improving his own handling of that. So that was his point of departure, and he was wasn't really evaluating The Prophecy objectively as something that stands on its own. Adam's style and persona is also very different from Giobbi's, and I can see that a lot of Giobbi's performances just wouldn't work for Adam. As mentioned already, Craig Petty's review gives an opposite perspective, which I find quite convincing: - he loves the quality of the wallet - he's thrilled with the instructions, and considers them is a lesson in how to be a better magician - he thinks the routine is well-constructed and worthwhile - he thinks the "one off" concept strengths the effect |
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EndersGame Inner circle Reviewer EndersGame 2195 Posts |
Here's the review I just posted of this, where I describe The Prophecy as "an impossible trick, a versatile prop, and a mini-magic course, all wrapped into one."
Review: The Prophecy by Roberto Giobbi https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......c=745191 Here's an excerpt from the conclusion of my review: "First of all, you get a very solid trick, with great presentational possibilities. The idea of a thought-of card appearing in a wallet in your spectator's pocket is quite astounding. Intrigue is immediately aroused by saying: "I have the answer to a question inside this envelope, but the question has not yet been asked". Giving the wallet up front to your spectator to hold on to also strengthens the impossibility. Having your spectator shuffle an imaginary deck also makes for some fun byplay, as those familiar with the invisible deck will immediately realize, but it also creates an outcome that seems all the more baffling and astounding. And despite what some might think, the method doesn't rely on multiple layers of equivoque, and aside from the colour, it really is a genuinely free choice on the part of your spectator. The "off by one" ending won't excite everyone, but when presented right it can also add more amazement. Arguably mentioning this at the outset can even strengthen the entire routine. "Secondly, you get a great prop, which has the potential for being used as a tool in the rest of your magic. Especially if you don't yet own a Himber Wallet, or have always wanted to get your hands on the older style like the one included here, this is a great opportunity. "Finally, the teaching is superb. This is much more than just an explanation of how to do this trick, but at times aspects of it become a mini-course in improving your card magic and performance. Giobbi covers all the aspects of the handling, and while equivoque isn't at the heart of the routine, there are numerous "outs" that you're working with, in order to make things seem truly impossible for your spectator, and by the time you've watched the video you'll know exactly what to do." |
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