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TheNightBringer89 Special user 766 Posts	Posted: Aug 4, 2004 06:07 pm 0 Hey guys, I am considering either buying Banachek's fourth dvd in his series (I have his other 3) or Morgan's liquid metal in the near future. I already own Psychokinetic Silverware by Banachek, so keeping that in mind, which one would you recommend? Thanks "Dreams are born of imagination, fed upon illusions, and put to death by reality." It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, If you're not like the others then you don't belong.
david_a_whitehead Inner circle USA 2122 Posts	Posted: Aug 4, 2004 06:51 pm 0 Pk silverware is all you need to impress any layman with bends.
Ken Dyne Inner circle UK 2268 Posts	Posted: Aug 4, 2004 07:00 pm 0 There is much more than bending forks and spoons on the fourth vlume, I havent seen Morgan's and I would personally await some reviews on the Café before putting my money out there. Banachek's has a great deal of positive reviews and I recommend it highly. Kennedy MR GOLDEN BALLS 2.0: https://mentalunderground.com/product/mr-golden-balls-2-0/" target="_blank"> https://mentalunderground.com/product/passed-out-deck/ BAIRN: Named 'Best Mentalism Product Of 2014 by Marketplace of the Mind is my collection of more than 40 mentalism routines in a beautiful paperback book: http://www.mentalunderground.com/product/bairn
magicinsight Inner circle 4306 Posts	Posted: Aug 4, 2004 07:36 pm 0 You should check out another thread right below this one entitled, "Morgan Metal Bending." I have not seen the Morgan DVD but I have seen some the trailor/demo at Penguin's magic site. The manufactureer of the DVD does give creidt to Banachek for allowing MOrgan to use his techniques to bend the fork so I do not know to what degree is Morgan's technique(s) different or varied from Banachek's. From teh demo it appears that Morgan can bend the tines of a fork in all sorts of different directions at the same time. It certainly would not be fair or prudent of me to criticize or judge this particular DVD without compeltely seeing it. But for me, it just seems more like magic than mentalism. Probably Banachek's DVDS are enough. Although I am leaning (or bending) to the opinion that it is good to have different ideas and perspectives on teh same subject by different performers. However, there are already many metal bending DVDs by Kuff, Osterlind (albeit different-spoon bending, not fork bending), Bavli and now Morgan. Have we all gone metal bending happy? “Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.” —Hakim, Loreweaver
Scott Wells Inner circle Houston, TX 1025 Posts	Posted: Aug 5, 2004 06:11 pm 0 Keep in mind that the material on DVD #4 (Psychokinesis) does not duplicate what is on Psychokinetic Silverware. It enhances and adds new "twists" to silverware, plus other PK effects for coins, keys, nails and pencils. As to which I would recommend...well, I'm biased yours, Scott Wells Managing Partner Magic Inspirations "A magician who isn't working is only fooling himself." - Scott Wells, M.I.M.C. with Gold Star The Magic Word podcast: http://themagicwordpodcast.com Listen to convention coverage, interviews with magicians, pictures, videos and more. Magic Inspirations website for all things Banachek: www.magicinspirations.net
Dove84 Regular user 181 Posts	Posted: Aug 5, 2004 07:02 pm 0 I'm biased as well having seen first hand the reactions Morgan gets with this routine
Morgan Strebler V.I.P. Inside Your Mind 455 Posts	Posted: Aug 8, 2004 10:12 am 0 I could not agree with you more Scott. Banachek's Psychokinetic Silverware and his Volume 4 Psychokinesis DVD are both top notch and a must have for anyone into metal bending. IMO he is the best ever and I highly respect him. Morgan <BR> <BR>http://www.morganstrebler.com
mattisdx Inner circle 1614 Posts	Posted: Aug 8, 2004 03:47 pm 0 Definatley wait on morgans. to me it looks like he's just using banachek's moves with different 'types' of bends. but from the penguin video, you couldn't tell much
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DP the Great Regular user CC, Texas 198 Posts	Posted: Jun 9, 2007 12:03 am 0 Banacheck is very good. But every time I do Silver Metal, I fry people! Very strong, very easy to do. I would highly recommend liquid metal. High action, quick pace fork bending routine with a killer souvenir. My most asked for routine by far! I love it! -DP D. P. the Great www.dpandedmagic.com
Al Straker Grammar Host Australia 1130 Posts	Posted: Jun 9, 2007 02:35 am 0 Quote: On 2004-08-08 06:12, Morgan Strebler wrote: I could not agree with you more Scott. Banachek's Psychokinetic Silverware and his Volume 4 Psychokinesis DVD are both top notch and a must have for anyone into metal bending. IMO he is the best ever and I highly respect him. Well said Morgan, your not too shabby yourself! Cheers, Al Al Straker Resident Mystery Entertainer at Multiple Venues Music & Mentalism Specialty Act 'Completely Mental' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyGhApqnG7I (Old clip, show has changed quite a bit since then!) Jazz & Contemporary Musician/Composer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnN3JNmeKns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU_zfOvpneA
Roy Elite user Israel 486 Posts	Posted: Jun 9, 2007 07:06 am 0 Hand Down - Banacheck! Tools to market your shows using WhatsApp
gabelson Inner circle conscientious observer 2136 Posts	Posted: Jun 9, 2007 07:23 am 0 Why does it have to be a contest? Whatever works best for you. I watched Osterlind's bends ONCE and was able to pick them up. I'm still have problems with Banachek's. Yet Banachek's two business card p--ks are probably the easiest I've ever learned. Morgan's bends are exactly as he describes them... "art". Yes, they're quick, but they're also dramatic. Whatever floats your boat.
Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts	Posted: Jun 9, 2007 01:08 pm 1 Hmm... the best way to settle it is have banachek and stebler hold the hilt of a sword... then use their PSI powers to make it bend towards their opponent's neck... "Therrree cannn beeee onnnlyyyy onneee...." Actually, I side with Gabe - you should get both - plus Osterlind's materials, plus sections of Tarbell... to even Dan Harlan material.... I am of the school if you are going to do an effect to the extreme - get everything on it you can and find the subtle nuances of every performer... mix it together - add your own take.. and you get something much more powerful and original designed to your performance character. "They are lean and athirst!!!!"
gabelson Inner circle conscientious observer 2136 Posts	Posted: Jun 9, 2007 06:40 pm 0 Agreed- case in point, Bruce Lee. He studied many styles, took what he could from each, and created the most devastating, practical style of Martial Arts perhaps ever invented- Jeet Kune Do- "The "Way of The Intercepting Fist", or, what could be called, "the style of NO style"- of incorporating the best of everything. Many of the dogmatic old-school masters were taken aback by this young punk, saying their style was "THE ONLY WAY" and challenged Lee outright. None ever beat him. Ok, enough with the Kung Fu, back to the mentalism...
Lior Inner circle 1962 Posts	Posted: Jun 9, 2007 11:31 pm 0 Just had Lunch with Banachek Go for it! He knows. Listen to every thing he say Lior The Lior Touch https://1amagic.com/ PEA Dave Lederman Award 2009 PEA Dunninger Award 2001 Life Time Achivmeant IUPA 2016
Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts	Posted: Jun 10, 2007 01:16 am 0 Quote: On 2007-06-09 14:40, gabelson wrote: Agreed- case in point, Bruce Lee. He studied many styles, took what he could from each, and created the most devastating, practical style of Martial Arts perhaps ever invented- Jeet Kune Do- "The "Way of The Intercepting Fist", or, what could be called, "the style of NO style"- of incorporating the best of everything. Many of the dogmatic old-school masters were taken aback by this young punk, saying their style was "THE ONLY WAY" and challenged Lee outright. None ever beat him. Ok, enough with the Kung Fu, back to the mentalism... Sorry Gabe, That is absolutely NOT what Bruce Lee did. He invented a seperate style that did not have the limitations of other styles. Although movement in humans is similar and he did study certain leverages and power transfers of many styles, Jeet Kune Do [the way Bruce Lee taught it] had it's own system and form. It was not a hodge podge of many styles. As far as the legend of no one ever beating Lee, that's debatable. James Still with the Chinese circus
malkav Veteran user 314 Posts	Posted: Jun 10, 2007 02:02 am 0 I'm partial to Uri Gellers video.
Rafael The Master Hypnotist Elite user South East Asia 498 Posts	Posted: Mar 23, 2021 04:18 pm 2 Quote: On Jun 9, 2007, Xiqual wrote: Quote: On 2007-06-09 14:40, gabelson wrote: Agreed- case in point, Bruce Lee. He studied many styles, took what he could from each, and created the most devastating, practical style of Martial Arts perhaps ever invented- Jeet Kune Do- "The "Way of The Intercepting Fist", or, what could be called, "the style of NO style"- of incorporating the best of everything. Many of the dogmatic old-school masters were taken aback by this young punk, saying their style was "THE ONLY WAY" and challenged Lee outright. None ever beat him. Ok, enough with the Kung Fu, back to the mentalism... Sorry Gabe, That is absolutely NOT what Bruce Lee did. He invented a seperate style that did not have the limitations of other styles. Although movement in humans is similar and he did study certain leverages and power transfers of many styles, Jeet Kune Do [the way Bruce Lee taught it] had it's own system and form. It was not a hodge podge of many styles. As far as the legend of no one ever beating Lee, that's debatable. James Who is Bruce Lee? Is he related to a The owner of a magic store in Medford who is charged with credit card fraud? The BIGEST Room in the world is the Room for Improvement
DocBenWiz Special user Meridian, Idaho 991 Posts	Posted: Mar 23, 2021 11:37 pm 0 Not Bruce Lee,....that was HANK LEE, Medtord, Mass. I was shocked to learn of his devolving into crime as when I lived in MA I visited and bought from Hank Lee's shop for many years in the 70s to 80s! "Pay no attention to that strange man behind the curtain" (it's only "Doc Benjamin from the Amazing Wizardelia Wagon")
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