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Daegs Inner circle USA 4291 Posts |
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Good idea Fire, now you just have to buy the copyright to the videos so you'll be in a position to do so. I just want to note that even that may be enough, remember they are in another country, US copyright laws probably don't have any meaning in japan, though if LL owns Japanese copyrights they might have legal action. I see this same thing in internet laws, and copyright laws all the time... I don't think its right, but you can't go around trying to inforce US laws on other countries! |
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Big Jeff Loyal user 300 Posts |
Fake DVDs' come from cbs news.
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Whetter 007 New user Kuskonook, BC 18 Posts |
I've lived in Shanghai for over a year now and I haven't found a western style magic store or any magic DVD's.
They copy things here as part of normal business, so I wouldn't be surprised one day to run across something in my travels. Martin |
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Mezmer New user Las Vegas 64 Posts |
There are a lot of fake copies on EBAY. Make sure it is an original before you bid! I got scammed on Videomind last year. They were made with a laser printer and a DVD burner on a home PC! Watch out.
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sullivanl Loyal user 277 Posts |
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On 2004-08-15 05:42, sharpace wrote: I also live in Hong Kong for the past 18 years and I have noticed the rampant pirating of magic merchandise and am horrified and appalled. Every DVD in this store is pirated, and they have over 200 titles and 3 different shop locations throughout Hong Kong and the outlying islands. This is a matter than needs to be dealt with swiftly and effectivly. I know quite a lot about copyright law in Asia and Hong Kong, and could help out people with copyright infringement if there was a desire from the producers of these DVDs to stop the piracy. In this case it is particularly easier because they are selling these DVDs right out of an actual shop, not on the street. They also sell the DVDs for close to retail price. This is a disgrace to the magic community, and I can’t believe I see it happening on this scale. Please PM or email me from my site http://www.hongkongmagicman.com if you know people that can help me stop this piracy. |
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kuroko New user 60 Posts |
No, they're two store within the same mall.
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On 2004-08-15 05:42, sharpace wrote: |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
My L&L DVDs have Partial titles etched into the ring around the translucent disk around the centre hole, on the shiny side of the disk (eg CUPSANDBALLS or FLIPSROPE). Anyone know if pirates are able to do this as well? Or do they bother?
John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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millarhouse Regular user New Zealand 199 Posts |
I purchased "Front Row Sankey" from Penguin Magic, and to my surprise it was a burnt DVD. I was expecting a pressed DVD and was very disappointed.
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Brian Proctor Inner circle Somewhere 2323 Posts |
There are some people who have decided to make DVDs on their own at home. Jim Pace's last dvd was home made. It came on a burned disc. I had no problem with it.
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Henryharrius New user 57 Posts |
Yes, there are two store in 188 shopping center in Hong Kong. The one by the famous magician is on the first floor, who NEVER sells privated DVDS. The one on the second floor is the one you mentioned...
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ashah Elite user 474 Posts |
Piracy seems to be a rampant problem around the world. It's not just magic either -- Hollywood movies, music, software, etc. are all pirated.
I hope that these practices will at least slow down in the future. I can imagine a world in which all of the above industries cease to exist because they are not profitable any more. It's not pretty. |
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Chris Keppel Special user Kansas City MO 544 Posts |
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On 2005-05-01 16:07, millarhouse wrote: that's because sankey made them like that. Has nothing to do with penguin. Penguin dvds that they make are all pressed to perfection. Its really not a big deal because its not like its a fake, its just not pressed. You cant really press only 200 othewise its pricey. that's most likely why sankey did that. No different then some of these vcd's that people put out. Really they are even cheaper because you can pick up a 100 spindle of cd r's for around 8 bucks. that's .08 cents each. Then these guys go and sell it for 30.00, now that I would be unhappy about.
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
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On 2004-09-30 00:20, Mezmer wrote: Ebay is supposed to PROHIBIT that kind of crap, but they mosy definitely do NOT enforce it. I bought the Munsters DVDs during one of my first purchases to ebay, and it turned out to be pirated. Wasn't hard to tell, when I saw the TBS logo in the corner of the screen. Coied off someone's TV set. And then, they only half ass played. Sometimes they wouldn't even play at all. I was P.O.d to say the least. Trying to get my money back was like pulling teeth. The jerk just made excuses and denied it. The big liar. If anybody wants the name of the seller who ripped me off, I will gladly tell them. Just Pm me.
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impossible man Elite user 403 Posts |
I'd like to resurrect this topic because I want to start shopping for DVDs off eBay again, but I see a lot of good material going slightly lowball from Asia and I don't trust it. Do I have to look for private sellers selling used copies?
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eatonmagic Special user Orlando, FL 737 Posts |
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On 2004-08-14 12:32, jimtron wrote: Not necessarily. With gang-run printing now being available and dirt cheap, these could easily be reproduced withe a hi-res scan and printing. Overnight prints, Vistaprint, etc. |
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
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On 2012-05-10 06:46, impossible man wrote: I bought a set of Rene Lavand DVD's from some guy in Singapore or something on Ebay a few years ago. All burned copies, it turned out, with scanned and copied artwork. It wasn't even a super cheap price, which is why I thought they were probably real prior to purchase. Everything on Ebay goes through Paypal now, though, so you'll have some recourse if that happens.
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manipulator Veteran user Houston, Texas 319 Posts |
Even though ebay may not enforce, can we contact ebay customer service, open a case in the resolution center, then request a refund from the seller? Is the seller required to refund that way? Just curious as I am planning to buy something off of ebay too.
I know that a few years ago (maybe before 2005), pirated CDs/DVDs/VCDs were sold openly in a lot of places in Asia, but that has changed (I don't know about magic DVDs specifically, but for regular movies/CD albums, sellers go to jail for selling pirated copies). So due to stricter law enforcement, that has gotten better. A couple years ago when I visited Asia again, I no longer saw any store selling pirated copies openly. |
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Olympic Adam Inner circle 1259 Posts |
Had trouble getting money back for something pirated before, it was a rare release of a fan club CD so eBay had no way to prove that it was fake! I had to get a letter printed from the fan club and send it to eBay by a certain date etc, hard work.
With magic DVDs I could see a similar problem, being that they are created by a lot of regular people (not big publishers) these days compared to other items in the mainstream I try to be careful but take educated risks at times because of a good deal, rarely had any trouble I generally look for a photo from a real person on eBay, no stock photos and check where they are etc. Also I check the seller out, previous listings etc, if they aren't there, I wonder why, if they are there I check what they sold, to see if it is multiple copies being sold, which may indicate someone running a print off!
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Miraclemakers Special user INA 685 Posts |
In my country, you can get that 3 dvd set for under $10..... No dvd cover, just a copied dvd from original.... So sad, but its a fact... Just try to buy from autorize seller, buy the original and respect the art.
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