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icentertainment Inner circle 1429 Posts |
I have done a few Trade Shows, but the style I use is similar to Eddie Tullock- contant magic at ground level. I have been looking over other Trade Show performers web sites and some are on a small riser like Joel Bouer (sorry spelling not good)they seem to build larger crowds according to their photos.
Which method is best How high should you be is their a place I can purchase either the plans for designing my Podium Table or but an actual table Thank you David Welzman |
Mr Grey New user 28 Posts |
Actually Eddie Tullock did work on a little platform and was indeed raised up a little higher so people could see him better.
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icentertainment Inner circle 1429 Posts |
Ok Thanks but not on the L&L Video he was ground level.
22 people have looked at this question, Is their anybody who can help me???????? |
Mr Grey New user 28 Posts |
I will......I will..........
But nobody listens to me. Still I expect you will. You will find that people are reluctant to provide advice on trade show magic either because they don't do it or if they do they don't want YOU to do it. I will advise on this when I am in the mood if I haven't been kicked off by then. One thing for now. Just remember that there is no rule in this business. Do it any way you like and feel comfortable with once you get the feel of things and hear what others have to say. I break every "rule" there is in the trade show magic business and it doesn't make a blind bit of difference. Later............... |
C Christian Loyal user 288 Posts |
Very True Mr. Gray very true!! Trade show magic I like to think is very simular to street performing in the fact that you have to lure them in. Some people just have it and others fight for it, regardless of style at the end of the day it's the leads and sales that matter, period. Hope this helps Chris
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bubbleburst2004 Veteran user 370 Posts |
What height of riser do you use now?
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icentertainment Inner circle 1429 Posts |
Thank you for your advise.
Yes My Grey I am listening and learning. It's just in Australia their are no Trade Show Infotainers so it's a pretty new concept over here. -There are magicians who get hired to do tricks at booths but they realisticly serve no purpose other than the trick factor, they don't do any info-taining or build a crowd or educate about the product or get the customer (or potential customer) contact details. I simply cannot go to a trade show to watch other performers, (because their are none)the examples I have seen are Eddie from L&L, a little bit on the Hustle Hustle, and Steel & Silver Gertner DVD Vol 4 which is good. From the quote" You will find that people are reluctant to provide advice on trade show magic either because they don't do it or if they do they don't want YOU to do it." For those people don't want me to perform- I'm in Australia- I'm not going to make an impact on your business. Chris thank you, Yes It's the bottom line that is important, the purpose generate more leads Bubbleburst at this point mostly no riser or about 12 inches depending on the client. Next Question: The table I use is not the best so I would like to iether buy or make a Trade Show Podium.- Does anyone know where to start or does anyone make them and sell them? Thanks for all your valuable info |
bubbleburst2004 Veteran user 370 Posts |
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On 2004-10-17 03:47, icentertainment wrote: David, There are several magicians working in Australia that incorporate product information and lead gathering into their presentations at trade shows and do it extreamly well. I'm not in Australia, so there may well be several more that I ( and obviously you) don't know about. Quite a few Trade Shows "down under" will also feature workers from other countries, flying in from NZ, SE Asia or the US/UK. That's how I got to work there a few years back, on a road show, Melbourne/Sydney/Brisbane. So really everyone is your competition and your fellow workers. It's a very big field and it's not a closed shop, but you have to be careful in how you enter. For instance I noticed you use the term "infotainer". ?? Although a generic term , Isn't this term strongly identified with a fairly prominent australian magician already? Why not find a unique phrase that will set you apart and not tread on toes. Getting back to your podium question, there are a couple of US firms that make traveling breakdown podiums . A google search will find them. Mr Grey, great advice as always. There are no rules. |
icentertainment Inner circle 1429 Posts |
Thanks Bubbleburst.
Who is The Trade Show infotainer in Australia. I can't find him/her on google, any of the speakers sights or any magician has heard of him. I know of Pat Trick in Melbourne who does a little bit But no full on Trade Show Infotainers. The closest I got was a Tony in NZ who is not a Trade Show infotainer but a Motivational speaker Whilst I may use the term infotainer I don't copy other peoples routines or presentations. Like you said it's a generic term Someone once told me Phil Cass was an infotainer but that's a lot of crap he may do trade shows but he is not an infotainer. anyway I am still thinking about what you have typed but I'm going to bed now I'll type more later good night everyone Dave |
bubbleburst2004 Veteran user 370 Posts |
Sorry Dave, I've been off working, but I see it doesn't matter as you're still asleep!
(only kidding, "cobber"). First point, not all magicians need to advertise/promote heavily on the web, so a google search will not usually find them anyway. Likewise from my experience, most good trade show workers find their niche within certain industries. They become an expert and known within that industry or even a specific company. They have little need to associate with speaker bureaux who don't understand what they do anyway. (And why would you need to work with someone who takes 30 percent of your hard earned money. Most believe & act as if you are taking 70% of their money) Specific performers? It's not really my place to name names, for the reasons above, they may not want people searching up thier sites, ripping off their tag lines, catch phrases and marketing copy, as happens so often in the "anything goes world of magic". But a couple of people who visit the Café ocassionally, Tomas Berger, he does a lot of trade, information events down there, Timothy Hyde, who used to do the magiccoach newsletter, I think works that field, Allen watson, does a lot of theme stuff. Phil Cass, I've seen him perform over here at a convention , funny guy, but as you say, I'm not sure what he does apart from shock people. BB |
icentertainment Inner circle 1429 Posts |
The last time I saw Tomas Berger was at the Hospitality Expo in Sydney, actually it was he that really got me thinking "I could do that better"
and started a serious approach to Trade Show work. No eye contact was 1 of the things that jumped out at me, he only had eyes for the 1 person he was performing for- people would stop and walk walk on because they couldn't hear him and we wouldn't accnowledge them. These guys do trade shows but they are very quiet performers- I'm loud I provide a different style for customers Just one thing with the bureaux yes you are right 30% is a lot and whilst I do get some work from them, 30% is not much to pay for in essence a referal, If they like you and you do good work you get a lot of work as you know. Ray Crowe who I work with a lot (non trade show guy - he does hand shadows) does no marketing at all and does 3 shows per week with ICMI, they asked to give him more but he said no for persoanl reasons but he does 150 shows a year on average no marketing no sales work and does quite well financially. You gotta like that. He is booked in advance of about 6 months. Their are pros & Cons for working with the bureaux. but if you get a stack of work, I believe it's worth it. But I got away from trade shows. I will be using the term infotainer, I don't think it will ruin the others businesses, I don't copy, I'm one of those guys that if I see a someone else perform a trick I stay away from it. part of being me is the uniqueness of me, I got into magic initially because 1: I loved it and 2: I wanted to be different, to copy other entertainers tricks or presentation goes against what I do. But before you say it If someone releases and effect on DVD or book, it's fair game, I would normally change it to fit my style but anyway it's again 3 in the morning I've got to get up early because I've got a bureaux job that I have to travel along way to get to Good Night all Dave Infotainer The truth is from what I saw of Thomas- was terrible I don't class what I saw as infotainment that would actually benefit the trade show booth. realisticly he was doing tricks period. Sorry -what I meant to say was I don't know of any Trade Show infotainers that do it full time, I have seen magicians at trade shows yes but not the crowd building presentations, that you see in the DVDs and videos. Doing tricks or baloon animals ( yes I saw this once) at a trade show stand is not what I'm talking about. I think that my questions have been answered plus a bit. Thank you Bubbleburst and thanks to all others who added their thoughts and experience to this post Cheers, David Welzman PS My show was awesome. |
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