Has/Does anyone here know where I can find a Rope Tie. that one can be tied up by a Spec. and Escape and have your Asst. get into the same tie you were just in. is this possible or just a Bunch of Molarkey ?

A good start is "33 Rope Ties And Chain Releases" by Burling Hull, which has many such things, along with notes on audience handling, set-up and the like. The section on the hundred foot rope escape is particularly good, going into detail on every aspect of that routine. It's only a fiver or so too.

That's one of the First Books I ordered from Wheeler-Tanner Years ago. but no book I have found gives/shows me a Rope Tie that I can use behind my back and have/let my Asst. get into the same time I was in before.

Sort of piecing together what you're after here.. is this for a substitution illusion? Any of those old spiritualist ties will do the trick, as they relied on being able to get in and out of them quickly in order to produce "phenomena" before being revealed still bound. As for the behind the back bit, most wrist ties will do fine with a bit of practice; my own recommendation would be a figure of eight tie (page 11 in 33 Rope Ties...) as you can easily loosen it enough to slip out your hands, and your assistant can easily pull it tight again by pulling the binding tight between the two loops after slipping their hands back in.

Helen yes it is your also a Mind Reader where can I get information on the spirit ties. will like to try several diffrent ties but I need/want a spectator to tie me up or should the spec be a stooge.

Basically try any general magic text written around 1900-1920, as spiritualism (and exposing false mediums) was very much the fashion at the time.

I'm not being funny, though, that Burling Hull book has loads of suitable ties; flicking through just now, I counted at least three more ties in there that are straight out of the spiritualists' playbook.

The figure of eight knot is as easy as they come for a spec to apply; all they have to do is wrap the rope around the centre and tie it. As far as most people know nothing could be fairer; the fallacy that this is an effective form of bondage is a common myth amongst many "bondage experts" in the fetish scene (though in fairness they tend not to be used to people who make any effort to get out). You can even do a simple hogtie escape based on it.

Taking this one step forward, could this be done with a zip tie do you think? Or even tape?

Oh and if using tape, please remember to shave the parts of the arm that the tape will be stuck to. Believe me when I say that it really hurts if you don't. If you have arms like mine, I've even started to bleed escapeing from tape. OUCH!!!

There is an old book out there called Harbincabadra (sp?).

In it is a VERY interesting version of his Assistants Revenge.

It is EASY to build and will do EXACTLY what you want.

Most people don't know that Robert Harbin created the Assistant's Revenge as a JOKE on Will Alying.

Will was so short he could never do the trick as all his assistants were much taller than he.....

Mark how old is the book about ?

Ummmmm......

Well I remember 30 years ago like it was yesterday...

...and yesterday like it was 30 years ago.

Does that help?

I guess about 20 years.

I'll try to do a search for it thanks all. has anyone heard of the siberian rope tie.

Yes, I had a version in my lecture for years...

care to tip your version. theres books that Talk about Houdini Doing this. but no one Knows How.

I believe the Siberian Transport Tie (if that's what you mean by the Siberian tie) was described in Encyclopedia of Escapes by McLaury as the 'wrist and neck tie.'

Steve

Steve I'll look into it I have a old version that is autographed.