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MagicJuggler Inner circle Anchorage, AK 1161 Posts |
I've been hanging on to a turnover pass I came up with over a decade ago amd thought I'd ask any of you knowledgeable folks if you've seen a turnover pass like it. I'd like to think it's original but you never can be too sure until you start researching and asking questions. Here's a link to a video I made with my phone.
https://youtube.com/shorts/kxF6udRGX64?feature=share Telle what you think.
Matthew Olsen
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Ray J Inner circle St. Louis, MO 1503 Posts |
Matthew, it looks very nice, but I don't see anything original. I like that you took the time to show it from several angles. Some passes only look good from limited angles and there isn't anything wrong with that so long as you are aware of it and manage the angles. But it is surely nice to have a sleight that isn't angle-sensitive.
The turning of the upper packet is something that practitioners can vary, using different parts of the hand to initiate the rotation. In my case, I use the forefinger to rotate the upper half. I see in your mechanics the finger does go to the far side of the packet but it doesn't seem to be pulling. So the motivation of the packet is coming from other portions of the hand/fingers. I wouldn't worry whether it is original or not, just use it and keep doing it well! P.S. There have been thousands of magicians working on passes for more than 100 years. It is rare to find something that nobody thought of before. Usually, with passes, it is the synthesis of various components that result in success. The exact combination or recipe of those components is unique to some individuals and therefore could be argued as "original", but even then it is questionable. Add to that the fact that everyone's hands are different and it really gets interesting. The bottom line for me is there is no perfect pass, or double lift, or...., but there is one that is perfect for you. Find it, use it, and be successful.
It's never crowded on the extra mile....
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Motor City Special user Metro Detroit Area 587 Posts |
Matthew, I agree with Tortuga. Your pass looks very good from all the angles. I'm not sure of the technique you're using. It's well hidden. What the spectator sees is similar to many turnover passes out there. There's no way for me to judge how original it is without knowing the method you're using. That being said, you have a very good looking turnover pass. Congratulations!!!
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warren Inner circle uk 4138 Posts |
As others have said without knowing what your doing it's hard to tell if its original but it looks very good.
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ssibal Veteran user 352 Posts |
This is the only in the hands pass that has a natural motivated action. Yours looks great!
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evikshin Special user 893 Posts |
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On Sep 26, 2022, Ray J wrote: great post regarding the ambiguous nature of true originality |
rawdawg Special user Southern California 686 Posts |
The slight tipping forward reminds me of Earnest Earick's pass.
One time, when I was young, I botched a sleight so bad, Vernon, Marlo & Miller rolled over in their graves. But I didn't see Elmsley, probably because he was behind the others.
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