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pastorclyde
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Seems there are some police officers on another site who say you can't rap the double-lock off the Peerless 700s. Well, trying three more pairs told me they were wrong. Being in the rapping mood (gives a whole new meaning to that word), when my American Legcuffs came I smacked them too. They opened even easier. No kidding. Here's the details.

http://www.mighellsillusions.com/american_legcuffs.htm

Have fun!

Clyde
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Clyde the Police have a Hard time even opening up locked cars for the public. the police do more damage then good.
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Clyde, in your experience, how are cuffs from the Chicago Handcuff Co. to work with as far as gaffing or even shimming an ungaffed cuff/leg iron ?? Any thoughts or views on that ?

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Rick,

I only have a set of Chicago thumbcuffs so I can't speak for certain. My guess is that they are similar to Valor which is easy to shim or gaff. Cuffs with a greater tolerance allows more room for shimming but with the right shim most all can be shimmed. Even Hiatt's split pawl isn't much if you try it- as Ian says, "tip it". (PM me if you want more on that...)

I find that any set of cuffs (leg or hand) can be gaffed to do whatever you want them to do- take of the db, pull open, gimmick up, special movement open, etc. Some are easier. The S&W M100s are very accessble. I don't like modifying Peerless as well though it can be done. The S&W pin style is the most common, I find, in lower cost cuffs and they are great for modifying. Most other cuffs follow one or the other of these three designs.

Even high security cuffs such as the Peerless 710 can be shimmed easily if not double-locked. Working the medeco tumbler lock isn't even much if you pick locks except that its much more difficult to pick them while wearing them (though it CAN be done.)

Hope this helps. I'm redoing my website and the pw protected area is going to have numerous cuffs and how to defeat them, which can be easily shimmed, etc. I'll holler when its ready.

Clyde

Oops, my mistake. I DO have some Chicago cuffs (You know your collection is getting too large when you don't even know what you have. I'm up to 120 different cuffs).

The Chicago 1000 cuffs have the once split pawl like the Valor 2300s. Same spring setup too. They are surprisingly tougher to shim than the ASPs for example with a tight tolerance that causes you to have to sqeeze the bow while shimming. The split pawl means its a bit more difficult than, lets say, the Chicago 2200 legirons. They have the typcial single pawl with the same spring. Easy to alter but the same to shim.

BTW, neither the 1000 nor the 2200 would rap off the db.

Hope this helps,

Clyde
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I must agree with you Clyde. You must have an impressive collection. Especially considering that you have aset of South African Made cuffs. Even Ian does not have a set. I am sending him a set on Saturday. I will wait in anticipation for your site. May I post a link to it in my Escapology forum when it is ready?

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