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Is it safe to do magic with doves outside. We will hopefully be doing them in a county talent show. I was just making sure that it safe. I mean this is going to be all new to me.
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Mike, there is no reason why you cannot perform with doves outside as long as you have them very well trained. Remember they are birds and birds fly. If you're comfortable with your doves, then go for it. If a dog runs off, chances are it will come back when called but I've never seen a dove come back when it's name was called.
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As Dave said it is possible, and it has been done but in answer to your original question, no it is not safe.
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Yes, inside is better ...
A dove is not a gimmick ...
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So I would be better off useing my rabbit out side then.
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There are 3 years that I work in a park every summer. I perform a dove act every day and never any problem.

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A dove act can easily be done outdoors, I would perform all barehanded production with invisible harness. Just don't sleeve toss a dove and expect it to fly back. I have done my dove act outdoors in hundreds of show and in windy conditions. I would be careful when you perform a dove split though. If you make a mistake the dove will fly away.
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David Ginn and I would warn you about night shows outdoors. Doves go to the light.

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Yes it can be done is the answer.
If you are able to do it is another question as it took time for our doves(as well as us) to understand limitations.
The other question is peculiar as using a rabbit as an alternative to doves confuses me. We perform with rabbits, doves and ducks outside but they are all different aspects of the performance. If you are a novice I would certainly suggest that you do not perform doves outside until you are comfortable with your indoor handling.
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There are a lot of other uncontrollable factors besides the birds flying away outside. What about other predator birds outside or dogs. I'd hate for a dove to be hurt or killed by another animal that may be in the vicinity. I saw a video on TV a few nights ago where someone is bringing home a new pet rodent and puts it on the cage. A second later, you see a hawk swoop in and take the pet for dinner. Hey, it could happen on a stage.
Just something else to be paranoid about!
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I prefer to perform doves inside, however if I must perform outdoors I will only use harness productions, my doves are well trained but as others have warned they can get away and into a dangerous situation. Some of my doves I have had for a long time and I hate the idea of them getting away only to be eaten by a cat of other creature.
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Yahhhh, I really hate those outdoor in the middle of the wilderness with wild animal predators lurking about kinda gigs.......

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Personally I would never do birds outdoors unless their wings were clipped. Now matter how well trained the birds are they are live animals and therefore can be unpredictable.

I saw another magician perform at a waterfront festival and produced a bird out of a prop. It took flight and due to the wind it was out of the tent almost instantly. Two of us took off running after it but it vanished out of sight while heading down a 100 foot embankment towards the bay. It was quite sad to see it go.

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I have personally witnessed a dove, whose wings were clipped, take a short flight away from the magician only to be pounced on by an alley cat who happened to be lurking nearby. Not a good way to close the show.
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The first two doves I ever owned didn't even know they could fly LOL. Sad but true. they were also VERY Old doves that were given to me by a magician who had used them for over 10 years. I'd put them out back on a tree with some food and water and they'd stay right there hopping from limb to limb all day till I came out and brought them in. It was the talk of the neighborhood for a while. If you train them well enough you can use them outside? I did use those two outside from time to time.
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