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Allan Olive
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Color Changing Knife Routine.

I was in a huge Bass Pro Shop and in the knife section they sold a set of the “color changing knives”. The knives themselves were pretty nice, but the routine it presented with them was very short did not live up to my expectation of what I have heard about the effect.

I have heard a lot of good things about this close up effect, but have never seen it presented myself, so I have no basis for reference other than this brief explanation given on the package.

Can anyone here post their favorite routine with the color changing knives? Or maybe even point me to a book or tape where a good routine is presented.

Thanks,

Allan
Gilmore
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Look here for Whit Haydn's excellent routine and knives:

http://www.chefanton.com/ScoundrelsStore......ucts.htm

Also, there is Michael Skinner's work on VHS "The Michael Skinner Master Teach In Series - Color Changing Knives - Vol 2" available at:

http://www.a1magicalmedia.com/prod_templ......ctid=880

and many other magic shops.
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Check Tarbell (I forget which volume). There is enough there for you to develop a routine. Have fun!

Dwight Powell
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Years ago there was a inexpensive booklet about the "Hot Rod" trick.
It was very helpful and showed me some very useful moves for routining.
OK, I just found it at The Trickery for $3.
"40 Tricks with a Hot Rod" by Scott Anderson

Depending on the size and shape of the knives some cigarette sleights are also pretty good.
mtmagic
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As mentioned above the Whit Haydn's routine is very good. It will require a third knife and the mongar set (which Whit uses) is very good. I've used his routine for a couple years now and it plays very strong for both adults and kids.
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On 2005-02-01 23:16, mtmagic wrote:
As mentioned above the Whit Haydn's routine is very good. It will require a third knife and the mongar set (which Whit uses) is very good. I've used his routine for a couple years now and it plays very strong for both adults and kids.


That would be "Mogar" as in "Joe Mogar."
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If you can find a copy of Ascanio's World of Knives, translated by Jose de LaTorre, you will find a superb compendium on this effect. Also, In Rene Levand's book is his routine for his "little knives" that is quite stunning.

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Yes, Mogar, sorry about the mistake
Hart Keene
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I use Bill Malone's routine in my walk-around. However, I don't "expose" the gimmick at the end as he does because 30% of the time I believe the spectators sort of figure it out. No need to run when you are not being chased.
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L&L has a very nice video of Michael Skinner performing and teaching the "Knives".

Mike
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Volume 7 of Tarbell's has a few routines in it. I believe that one of them is an Al Cohen routine showing an interesting handling of the knives. I have found that having the knife laying horizontally with the palm up and doing the paddle move as you roll your wrist from right to left and back again is very convincing and is more deceptive than the vertical position more commonly used.But that is just my opinion.
Have fun with it.
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I qoute Derren Brown from Absolute magic, " Excuse me sir, is this your penknife" and with that the magic fell stillbourne from the womb.
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The Haydn manuscript is worth it just for the Feidman flip-or whatever the correct name is-which is a paddle move where the hands don't even move, it is all at the finger tips.
Daryl -the other brother
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I can't believe no one's said this so here goes...Color-changing knifes in a Bass Pro Shop?? Sounds kinda...fishy.
Allan Olive
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Daryl...what can I say? I laughed out loud at your comment. But it's true, that'w where I found them.

I am interested in knowing more about "the Haydn manuscript", and the Freidman flip over. Where can that be found?

Allan
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Sorry Allan, I'm not familiar with Mr. Hayden's routine. Mine is a mix of Bill Malones (On the loose) and my own. I agree with Magic w/Hart, I don't expose the gimmick . I vanish the knifes ala toppit.
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"The Intricate Web of Distraction"--my routine for the color-changing knives that includes the "Friedman Flip" and the "Close Vanish"--is available both in pamphlet form and on DVD from http://www.chefanton.com/ScoundrelsStore......ucts.htm

It is the routine used by Bob Sheets, Johnny Ace Palmer and many other pros.
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Probably the very best routine I've ever seen for the CC Knives (and I love Sanders knives...) was taught to me by a wonderful guy named Richard Oakley from Memphis, Tennessee. I first saw him do it almst 30 years ago. Richard's about 75 now, and his routine, while not original moves, is an original combination of moves that flows very smoothly and cleanly. One day, he needs to put it out in a book, along with all the other things about magic he knows and can share. He's met everybody, knows everybody and, if you ask, him "hates magic". He even played the music for Dai Vernon's performance at a convention in the 70's. I know, cause I now own the letter from Vernon thanking him for it.

By the way, if you've never used or handled Jimmy Sanders' Color Changing Knives, you're missing the very best knives ever made for this effect. I'll never part with my last set!


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Bill Malone, whit hayden, and micheal skinner are a few people to check out, bill Malone gives that gimmick away in his routine which many don't agree with but they are all good.
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Whit I just bought IWOD what a great tape!!I have Mogars Stag Sensation but had a hard time following the routine, your tape will help greatly . Also recently I read Against Originality in the Magic Menu thank you for that it was an inspiring read

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