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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
Next PMZZ meeting April 16th. Check PMZZ for details.
~michael baker
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Bob Sanders 1945 - 2024 Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Michael,
Sorry to hear that you have a prior committment and will miss this PMZZ. Good luck on the other endeavor. We'll miss you. Bob Magic By Sander |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
I'll be there in spirit rather than body. Catch you guys the next go around.
~michael
~michael baker
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Bob Sanders 1945 - 2024 Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Michael,
Lucy and I had a fine show to a jam packed theater crowd at the Performing Arts Center Friday night. The band was from Bessemer. I expect you know them. They were perfect! Saturday and Sunday are Nashville. Hope things go well for The Raven. Bob and Lucy Sanders Magic By Sander |
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ricker Special user Tampa, FL 914 Posts |
It was a great time at the Tabman's. Info over at the PMZZ message base
http://www.pmzz.org/messages |
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Bob Sanders 1945 - 2024 Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
This was the best PMZZ meeting ever!
Bob |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
Keep rubbing it in guys...
~michael baker
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Bob Sanders 1945 - 2024 Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Where's the salt?
Bob The Amazed Wiz |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
I was using it with the tequila and the lime.
~michael baker
The Magic Company |
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Bob Sanders 1945 - 2024 Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Michael,
I understand that we will have two months of opportunities in Rocket City. Lucy is living in fear of the auction now! Some magicians use Pop-up Tie. My problem is Pop-up Hand. Bob Magic By Sander Please check out my suggestion for the floating chair and routine. (It was put into our secret projects file up on the river.) I used the chair suspension in the rodeo arena as a rodeo clown skit back in the early 60s. This would put them together on stage. (And I don’t have to fight mad bulls afterwards!) Posted: May 1, 2005 10:39pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is there any hard news yet on the Anatomy of Magic in Atlanta being cancelled? Bob |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
You might be able to pick up something here:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......1&14 ~michael
~michael baker
The Magic Company |
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Bob Sanders 1945 - 2024 Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Thanks Michael!
Bob Magic By Sander |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
Question: I have a few things to solder (various), that are larger than typical electronics work, but too small to use a standard propane torch on. Is it better to use a smaller torch or a larger soldering gun?
Part of the problem is with multiple joints on the same item. Successive joints, when heated up, allow the previous to break loose. I need suggestions, please. ~michael
~michael baker
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ricker Special user Tampa, FL 914 Posts |
Use a heat sink to divert the heat. I use an alligator clip for that in most cases.
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
Ok, but what size and type of device is going to give the best results?
~michael baker
The Magic Company |
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Bob Sanders 1945 - 2024 Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
I have mastered producing the "cold" joint that ultimately breaks. Is that too much heat?
Bob Magic By Sander |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
I don't know the physics behind this, but I have soldered some bad joints when the parts have been overheated. I always thought the flux was being burnt away. I have never heard the term "cold" joint. I really need some education on soldering.
~michael
~michael baker
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ricker Special user Tampa, FL 914 Posts |
Remember, heat, like current, follows the shortest path. Usually, I use a large aligator clip to dispuse the heat from a componet when I'm soldering electronics. (i.e a transistor or other device that would be destroyed by too much heat).
A cold solder join means a joint that hasn't been soldered correctly and will break easy. (too many times, this is a problem in the real world with the surface mounted componets and the wave soldering machine). You can also use a pair of plyers as a heat sink. The bigger the heat sink, the more heat it will dispurse. |
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Bob Sanders 1945 - 2024 Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
I've always been told that the shiny joints are the best joints. Is that true?
Bob |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
I have heard that, too. I have noticed that when (if) a joint breaks, it typically looks more like pewter.
Now, back to the original question: Is it better to use a smaller torch, or a bigger gun (iron)? Several things I would like to solder have multiple joints, which sometimes include long continuous runs. The largest soldering gun I have (which is too large for basic electronics) doesn't heat well enough to make good joints for structural soldering (the rest of the structure acts as a heat sink and pulls the heat away too fast). A propane torch (standard size) heats too much. Think about a Die Box shell, as an example. There is a common corner where a couple solder runs come together, and very difficult to get a heat sink into the far corner. The best I have been able to do is to constantly manuever little clamps around as I go. I was hoping there was a better method, or better clamps. I use tiny C-clamps and hemostats. ~michael
~michael baker
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