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pikacrd Veteran user Florida 387 Posts |
Sorry Dean but I do not understand why they would need a Guarantee or a return policy.
Are you asking the person who is producing the Master Class or from the person who is selling at the end of there show? Either way I am not sure why they would need a Guarantee or a Return Policy? I can not think of the last time that I went into a magic shop and saw a sign that said Returns Welcome. On the contrary I think that every Magic Shop that I have ever gone into has had a sign that said something like "Please make your selections carefully, because once the Secret is told the Magic is Sold". When anyone sells magic the honest to goodness sale is of the secret and not the prop or device that you do the magic with so in essence what you are selling is the entertainment value of the secret. I can understand why when selling a course on magic marketing that you would put a Guarantee or return policy but not on a trick or a video that has instructions of how to perform some magic on it. I actually like the idea of the master class and think that it has huge potential and would provide a much greater return than well let’s say the Dave Dee course. But that is just my opinion. Kris
“Indubitably, Magic is one of the subtlest and most difficult of the sciences and arts. There is more opportunity for errors of comprehension, judgment and practice than in any other branch of physics”. William S. Burroughs 1914-1997 American Writer
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TheDean Inner circle Reno, Nevada 2164 Posts |
Hey Kris,
I was asking Andrew and Paul if they Guarantee their product for my own reasons... I personally invested in one of these DVD’s too. I don’t think anyone here is going to buy these DVD's for "The Secrets". They are NOT selling magic tricks with this product. This IS in fact an information product JUST-LIKE The Dave Dee System or Jim Snack Course. Their "marketing product" is how to make extra money at every show in BOR sales, that's all. It’s NOT a magician’s teaching DVD like Osterlind, or Ammar, or any one of those great guys amazing DVD’s… “THIS is simply a marketing product” designed for us to potentially use as a sales and income tool, and NOT a new magic trick for us to learn and use ion our shows. Quote:
Announcing our NEW DVD. Throw away the magic coloring book you were selling after your shows .... a brand new GENERIC DVD is now available which you can produce for LESS THAN $1.50 per DVD! Visit our product page to find out more. Then they go on to further describe the business opportunity plain and simple. Nowhere do they say (as of this posting) it’s a new magic trick for magician’s to use in their show. It IS, in fact a “marketing product” designed for us to use to make more money in BOR (Back Of Room) sales. I'm not trying to 'start anything', (Remember, I have one too!) I just asked what I though was a very simple, direct question to which a simple answer (probably from the producers or anyone else who REALLY KNOWS) one way or the other will do. …again, I was just asking a simple question. Sorry if I rocked the boat with my question somehow brother. (I don’t know how it would have...) That was NOT my intention. Just asking if they (Paul and Andrew) are willing to stand behind the quality of their product with some sort of guarantee on their marketing product, that’s all. Sorry Kris if I offended you. Please accept my apologies. I am at your service and In HIS Service, Deano <><
Dean Hankey, *M.D. - The Dean of Success Solutions!
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pikacrd Veteran user Florida 387 Posts |
Deano,
No offence taken at all, nor do you need to apologies. I was just asking a question based on how I understand this is more of a product that is customizable for you to sell during your BOR sessions, than a type of "marketing" tool if you will. At least that is how I have interpreted what I have read, someone please correct me if I am wrong. I in now way thought that it was a trick for you to perform but rather a DVD that you reproduce and sell. My comments regarding why these guys would offer a refund are really spawned off of something that I read on their web page that said that the product or package should be available from your favorite magic dealer. I will ask this again if it is a product that you purchase that instructs you on how to use it to create a product that you can sell, and is a physical product in of its self why should they offer a refund? I may not have spent enough time on their web page but I do not remember them making any claims of any wonderful new marketing program or even an info product. As you quoted they are telling the potential buyers to stop selling the same old stuff buy this package and re-sell it. As a matter of fact on there page it says the following: Quote_________________________________________________ What you recieve One master copy of the DVD so that you can produce it yourself at home or mass produce + instructions on how to produce these yourself + permission to use our templates that are on this website. • By purchasing this Master class Kit you get permission to produce as many of these DVD's as you like. In one month on a cruise ship Paul Romhany can sell more than two hundred of these DVD's to passengers and at $20.00 each it all adds up! • Template (click on image on right to view) that you can easily produce yourself by adding your business card or design your own on your computer and print the covers for less than 35cents at your local copy shop. • Instructions on how to take this generic DVD and make it YOURS! It's so easy to reproduce these for your own personal use. You set your own price ... we suggest between $10 and $20. WHAT YOU GET 1. Easy to Learn Magic Tricks DVD - this is the DVD that Paul Romhany has been selling on cruise ships for the past few years. This is ALL you need to produce your very own DVD's to sell after shows. On the DVD you never see faces, only hands teaching and performing the tricks. 2. Instructions on how to either 'mass' produce your disks for less than $1.50 or produce your own on your home computer as you need them. Access to the web site where you can download template samples of DVD covers that you can you OR design your own. By simply downloading the template files you are ready to go! It's so easy End Quote_________________________________________________ So I guess what I am asking is where does it “go on to further describe the business opportunity plain and simple”. The business opportunity is; if you pay them a very reasonable licensing fee of $150.00 you can use there work and make it yours. Take the product to the back of the room and pitch it after your show, they offer no guarantee that people will buy what you are selling, nor should they nor can I find anywhere on the page that it says that they are offering a planed approach to selling these as a matter of fact it says that it makes a great giveaway. I am as well not trying to rock the boat I just do not understand why they should offer this type of a guarantee for this type of product that can be reproduced and sold.
“Indubitably, Magic is one of the subtlest and most difficult of the sciences and arts. There is more opportunity for errors of comprehension, judgment and practice than in any other branch of physics”. William S. Burroughs 1914-1997 American Writer
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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
If I were to buy this sort of product (Generic BOR DVD Master Copies, with reprint rights), my concern would be about the quality of the magic performed, whether it was appropriate material for the end user, and also the quality that the DVD was filmed in. If I invested a pretty penny for something that was below par, that might reflect poorly on me if I reproduced or sold it, I would be very disappointed.
And because the website doesn't offer testimonials attesting to the quality of the product, that is why I would especially look for a money-back guarantee. (I have seen the creators, Andrew and Paul, praise their own product here on this thread, but the only testimonial that has carried any weight so far for me has been Cody Fisher's brief review on this thread. No offence to Andrew or Paul. I've met Paul, and he's an awesome guy, so I might just buy it based on the fact that I like him. However, in real life, customers investing in something "unknown" from someone they are not familiar with, often look for testimonials or guarantees.) I would not want, nor expect, a money-back guarantee that the product will sell BOR and earn me lots of cash. That would be my responsibility to produce those results, not the creators. However, the weakness of offering a guarantee, is that some could come along, copy the master copy, and return it for a refund. Then still make "unlicensed" copies. So I can see the reluctance in offering a guarantee. I can't speak for Dean, but these are my thoughts on this sort of product. - Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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Cody S. Fisher V.I.P. Austin, Texas 1194 Posts |
Donald,
This DVD is top quality and so are the templates. I have already made my money back...and then some. I have used this for BOR room sales at a few PTA/PTO evening shows...the response has been great! On the inside of every DVD I have added a little brochure of all my other services. These are not effects that are made for magicians...they are solid effects that laymen can easily perform and easily make. They are actually pretty good to be honest with you. If you are used to the "Ed Harris Type Tricks"...these are way better! This was NOT shot in someones garage...it really looks great...the graphics are wonderful...top quality...in fact they are better than most "magic" DVD's on the market! I hope this helps my friend... Cody S. Fisher MUM Magazine
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TheDean Inner circle Reno, Nevada 2164 Posts |
Hey gang... I do-not wish to stir stuff up, but my experience is different that some others here.
I HAVE the DVD's, and I guess we just get to "Agree to Disagree" on this. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hey Kris, Check you PM for the entire share… My aim to be CLEAR and NOT mean or ill willed here, OK? Just sharing my perspective… that’s all. KRIS: No offence taken at all, nor do you need to apologies. I was just asking a question based on how I understand this is more of a product that is customizable for you to sell during your BOR sessions, than a type of "marketing" tool if you will. At least that is how I have interrupted what I have read, someone please correct me if I am wrong. DEAN: I apologize… to be more clear, as a “marketing product” (as apposed to a magic trick) is technically referred to as “Instant Author Marketing Product” and not JUST as a “biz opp” in the truest sense of the word. As an Instant Author Product, it IS a Marketing (BOR) Product. What other purpose does it serve? No one is asking for guaranteed on the “RESULTS” each will achieve, that is NOT the question. It is the QUALITY of the “presentations” on the DVD’s that is the issue, and the reason I asked. KRIS: I in now way thought that it was a trick for you to perform but rather a DVD that you reproduce and sell. My comments regarding why these guys would offer a refund are really spawned off of something that I read on their web page that said that the product or package should be available from your favorite magic dealer. I will ask this again if it is a product that you purchase that instructs you on how to use it to create a product that you can sell, and is a physical product in of its self why should they offer a refund? DEAN Thanks for the clarity regarding the “Magic Dealer” thing however, that has little to do with my concern and question. A simple question: If you buy ANY product and found it to be sub-par, and you felt embarrassed or unable to even USE the product due to the caliber of the product, would you have the right to ask for or request a refund? …That is my question. In The USA, by federal law, you do. And every business I deal with is honorable and willing to take care of their customers satifaction. KRIS: I may not have spent enough time on their web page but I do not remember them making any clams of any wonderful new marketing program or even an info product. As you quoted they are telling the potential buyers to stop selling the same old stuff buy this package and re-sell it. As a matter of fact on there page it says the following: DEAN: Maybe you missed the first two pages I quoted earlier… From above… Quote:
Finally, after years of using this to sell after shows Paul Romhany and Andrew Gerard are releasing to the magic fraternity one of the hottest secrets in making extra money from your magic and one of the best giveaways you will ever use.” Looks like JUST THAT to me… you? KRIS: So I guess what I am asking is where does it “go on to further describe the business opportunity plain and simple”. DEAN: Like I said… as stated in the first paragraph of this reply, more to the POINT, though it IS technically a biz opp, it can also be referred to and “Instant Author Marketing Product” sale or license. On these definitions, we can simply agree to disagree agreeably… OK? No problemo brother… KRIS: The business opportunity is; if you pay them a very reasonable licensing fee of $150.00 you can use there work and make it yours. Take the product to the back of the room and pitch it after your show, DEAN: Oops, you answered you own question… sorry. KRIS: they offer no guarantee that people will buy what you are selling, nor should they nor can I find anywhere on the page that it says that they are offering a planed approach to selling these as a matter of fact it says that it makes a great giveaway. DEAN: No one, including myself said anything of the sort. I NEVER alluded to, or suggest that they should guaranty the RESULTS one may or may-NOT get with this DVD as a BOR product… NOT the point in the least. I have NO-IDEA where the heck THAT came from? Mine is a question of the “QUALITY of the DVD’s presentations themselves. In over 35+ years of investing heavily in magic and success support products, I have NEVER (yes NEVER!) had the occasion to consider the notion, let alone actually ASK for a refund of my moneyed investment. THIS is a FIRST for me… ever! I’m sorry… I am NOT normally a complainer in regards to this sort of thing. Quite to the contrary, am usually a positive proponent, dare I say even ADVOCATE of such success related products and offers, (as you already KNOW) so THIS is unusual for me to even CONSIDER. YES, to each his own “opinion”, and THAT is why I asked many others for their honest, unbiased perspective as well! AGAIN, I don’t mean to offend, just answering questions asked of me. Please don’t kill the messenger. (though I imagine I will get some heat on this perspective. Sorry!) I realize that some will like and use this product… that is GREAT! That should not mean that I lose my monies cuz others are willing to use this product, does it? Again, no one has said that THEY DO (0r Do-Not) NOT HONOR RETURNS… we still don’t know. They may, and if they do, and all is well in the land. No foul, no loss… right? KRIS: I am as well not trying to rock the boat I just do not understand why they should offer this type of a guarantee for this type of product that can be reproduced and sold. DEAN: Thanks Kris! I appreciate, intelligent, adult conversation of different matters. No need to raise hairs just cuz we have differing perspectives, eh’? Here is some of what we get to consider… I guess it’s a: Customer service/support consideration. 1) I would NEVER want anyone to have one of my products who wasn’t fully and thoroughly pleased with the investment that they had made… No way Jose’! I have several success support product and I always have offered a 100% Satisfaction Guarantee cuz not everyone with think our stuff is da’ bomb. It’s just human nature and individual taste. Fortunately, no one has returned any of my products in my life time. But I still offer that security and comfort for my relationships best interest! 2) Conviction on the part of the author/owner of the products! Like I just said, I don’t want unhappy business relationships. If you don’t like it, or it is not what you would expect of a professional offering, then I WANT you to return it for you investment back… that is just good business. Donald said it best: Quote:
“If I invested a pretty penny for something that was below par, that might reflect poorly on me if I reproduced or sold it, I would be very disappointed.” I am sorry, but it just IS what IS for us and our business success plans and outcomes. I WISH it was! It would save me a bunch of time. I am at your service and In HIS Service, Deano <><
Dean Hankey, *M.D. - The Dean of Success Solutions!
Serving & Supporting YOU and Your Success! "Book More Shows... Make More Money... SERVE MORE PEOPLE! - Not Necessarily In That Order…" (*Marketing Doctor) |
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A.G. Special user Vancouver- Canada 960 Posts |
WOW! What a thread! First off, thank you Cody,for your kind words again.We are happy to hear another satisfied customer!
Now Donald asked about the quality? The camera used to shoot this dvd was a 3 chip camera (broadcast quality)shot professionally. The graphics etc,.. as Cody said "better than most magic dvd's out there".Even the music is copyright free! This is not a "marketing course" but a dvd to sell as b.o.r. sales item and like. Dean,I cannot really understand if you WANT a refund? Or just want to know if we offer them? In any case, I will try to help. As for refund ,as already mentioned, on a product of this nature (duplication), there are too many rip offs out there already! We are not going to pay them to do it! In future if you are that concerned with a refund I would reccomend inquiring BEFORE you purchase,thats common sense. We have not had 1 complaint about this product, just great feedback from satisfied customers. In fact many thought that we were selling this too cheap! cheers
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pikacrd Veteran user Florida 387 Posts |
Dean,
I just PM'ed you with a responce. All is well in the world of magic and the kingdom of the DVD. Take care. Kris A.G I just PM'ed you as well. Kris
“Indubitably, Magic is one of the subtlest and most difficult of the sciences and arts. There is more opportunity for errors of comprehension, judgment and practice than in any other branch of physics”. William S. Burroughs 1914-1997 American Writer
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*Bro* Loyal user 209 Posts |
I too will attest to the quality, appropriate nature of the tricks and no brainer investment opportunity of this product. Cody Fisher and others like myself who own this know of it's effectiveness. 150 bucks is one kids birthday party. I was recently in Atlanta and had the opportunity to hear "The Dean" speak at a marketing convention as well as many others. Let me just say that photo copied spiral bound books with some valueable and some less than valueable marketing info was being sold at prices ranging from $400 - $700 dollars after each speaker spoke, talk about back of the room sales. I am not saying anything negative about the Dean as I found him a great speaker and a stand up guy and didn't buy any of his products to review, I am just confused by the dialogue and am wondering if others who market to magicians aren't just envious of a great idea that has come and gone.
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TheDean Inner circle Reno, Nevada 2164 Posts |
First off, allow me to state that I absolutely do-NOT like the quality of communications that “posting” affords. It is impersonal and ends-up as ammunition for others to volley back n’ forth for personal gratification in zero earnest attempt to get-at the truth or a genuine UNDERSTANDING of each “PERSON” offering a share.
So few of you KNOW me and yet, “here”, I am met with pretty regular dissention with out regard for the communication aspired to. It must sound like I’m a big-fat whiner… and whether you believe it or not, the ONLY thing I am guilty of is being passionate about the success of others. I don’t make a thin dime more or less when YOU gain better gigs and relationships as a result of my blathering around the net… it just IS what it IS. BUT, if there is payment in this universe it IS that OTHERS get MORE of what they want out of life. Now about the DVD… I asked because I am not happy with the DVD for me and my business success and would like to have my money back if it’s possible, that’s all. I am so HAPPY that there are those who seem to like the product and are willing to use it… woo hoo! Such is not the case for me. I thought it was simple. If you have any further questions, I am willing to do my best to work to answer them based on my experience and perspective. I hope you understand now. I am at your service and In HIS Service, Dean <>< PS NONE of this means I don’t like the producers of this product… I don’t even KNOW them, but I have heard form individuals I trust, respect and count-on that they are of the highest standards, and that is good enough for me until otherwise proven to the contrary. Have an GREAT week! PPS Gilbert… Did we get a chance to talk one-on-one? I would love to get to know you better brother! PPPS Like it or not, if I can be of value, service, support to you and your success, please feel free to count on me in any way I can.
Dean Hankey, *M.D. - The Dean of Success Solutions!
Serving & Supporting YOU and Your Success! "Book More Shows... Make More Money... SERVE MORE PEOPLE! - Not Necessarily In That Order…" (*Marketing Doctor) |
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ThePartyMagician Loyal user Bristol, UK 216 Posts |
Hi all,
I just received my copy of this DVD product ( http://www.magicmasterclass.com ), and I'm very happy with it. It appears a no-brainer to me, I've already run off some copies for this upcoming weekend! Kind regards Mike |
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Paul Romhany V.I.P. Canada 800 Posts |
Hi guys
I am one of the producers of the dvd and am currently at sea for the next few months. just wanted to say that sales from this DVD are going really well. Having a product to pitch is just a bonus and most cruise ship magicians I know and respect ´pedal´their products including magic books, dvds and now even tricks!! I love this business and the sales are going very well. The dvd might not be for everybody but the majority of people we have sold it to have loved it and are doing well from it. It really is a no brainer. Glad that some of the well known names in magic are using it as well: Paul
"life is like a movie ... you write your own ending" - Kermit the Frog
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TheDean Inner circle Reno, Nevada 2164 Posts |
Please understand me correctly... and I apologize if I have less than clear. I am certain that there are some who will use this product and be happy with the money they make... I am excited for those folks!
I am not "slamming" anyone. I am just saying that in my opinion and for those I showed it to, it simply does NOT fit our success and business model and was asking if there is a return/refund policy for us who can't use the DVD. There has yet to be a clear response or answer to my question (in e-mail or here) from one of the folks who can truly answer my question. The rest is conjecture, opinions and shares, and how ever interesting, NOT a REAL answer to the question at hand. I was hoping against all hopes that as a success support advocate that this DVD would solve one of my 'pressing business challenges right now',(A medium to large order [2,500 first run] for a teaching DVD of simple magic tricks) but such is not the case in this example. I was just asking a simple question to which a simple answer would be appreciated, that's all. I LOVE the concept and am VERY (intimately) familiar with it's operation and implementation and success potential, which the guys at the DVD site are already familiar with, based on some e-mail correspondences with me regarding some projects of mine from the early 80's. (Prior to my investment in THIS DVD) I even made some suggestion for their over-all success with this effort since based on my-own success that I have already “Been-There, Done That” on this exact type of success product nearly 25 years ago. I WANTED this to be "THE" solution for me. It would have been MUCH easier than what I had set-up and ready to go again, but unfortunately, it just isn't. (For US) No foul, no loss. I'd just like to return the product for my money back... honestly, it really IS that simple. For those that want to use it... party on my brothers and sisters! I’m happy for you. YES, I answered some questions along the way based on my own personal experience and the response I received from other views of this product / DVD. Again... my original post was a very simple question. “Do They Offer a Return/Refund Policy” As of yet, both here and in e-mail, no answer. Sorry if I created any undue waves… honestly, I was Just asking. I am at your service and In HIS Service, Dean <><
Dean Hankey, *M.D. - The Dean of Success Solutions!
Serving & Supporting YOU and Your Success! "Book More Shows... Make More Money... SERVE MORE PEOPLE! - Not Necessarily In That Order…" (*Marketing Doctor) |
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Paul Romhany V.I.P. Canada 800 Posts |
Hi
Just read your message. No we can not offer a refund simply because it´s a DVD which means it can be copied and we can´t control that. Sorry it wasn´t what you were looking for. I just had several thousand printed myself which I do sell on cruise ships and they do extremely well. Perhaps if you let us know what you want maybe we can custom one for you. Our original idea was to custom the DVDs but because of both our professional schedules, we perform world wide on cruise ships and tours ... it would be impossible for us to set up a business like that. The reason this started was because several of my good friends, professional magicians, asked who did my teaching DVD. I told them I had it produced myself and they all said if we could come up with a generic one they would purchase it. That´s how it really started. Back to the ship now. Cheers Paul
"life is like a movie ... you write your own ending" - Kermit the Frog
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TheDean Inner circle Reno, Nevada 2164 Posts |
Well I guess there is my answer.
Too bad.
Dean Hankey, *M.D. - The Dean of Success Solutions!
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Big Al Jnr Regular user Yorkshire, England 155 Posts |
Having just read through this thread it appears that this DVD is just like most other products, both in magic and outside magic. I.e suitable for some and not suitable for others. Most seem to think it's a benefit to them and that's great, some don't and that's life, isn't it? The web site makes it perfectly clear what this product is before you buy it.
To be honest, "The Dean", if I had a "first run" order for 2500 basic teaching dvd's (and I'm not sure why you feel you have to tell everyone that you have such an order) then I wouldn't look to buy one off the shelf anyway, I'd want to put together a personalised UNIQUE TO ME product that NOBODY else offered, so I'm surprised that someone as experienced and professional as yourself has even looked at an off the shelf product as a solution anyway. I don't want to sound arguamentative, that's just how is see it. Regards Al.
The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and, if they can’t find them, make them. George Bernard Shaw.
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TheDean Inner circle Reno, Nevada 2164 Posts |
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AL - "Having just read through this thread it appears that this DVD is just like most other products, both in magic and outside magic." Yep, this is true, but in the REAL WORLD I could return it for my money back. At least in the USA. It's a FTC and federal law thing as far as I knew it. (Though I’m not a lawyer) – In the REAL WORLD, I would have NEVER been left 'holding the bag'. Obviously it’s a moot point now. I'm over it... Quote:
AL - "I'm surprised that someone as experienced and professional as yourself has even looked at an off the shelf product as a solution anyway." Because in the real world of business, smart, savvy business professional do not re-invent the wheel "IF" there is a wheel that will work already in place or available. And, because I CARE more about my customers than I do for my own personal bottom line, I was trying to save my business relationship some time and money… but again, THAT is a mute point now. A quick question to think about: (Doesn’t necessarily require a real answer) Do YOU build NEW illusions for EACH and EVERY event you do cuz the name of the business you serve changes... I doubt it. It's NOT GOOD BUSINESS! Sure, you may customize parts of your over-all business solution, as do we, but you do NOT go out and buy all new tricks for EVERY show. That same is true in the real world of business solutions. Interesting that you asked though. The deal HERE is that the purported solution (The DVD) was unuseable for us in our situation (with-out going into details of quality) so we simply “asked” for our money back. This how it works in the rest of the business world... but the answer was NO cuz they don’t trust ALL of us. But we are to TRUST Them? – Interesting. To bad... Just my opinion and experience... that's all. I received my direct answer and I will have to live and deal with that answer. I guess it really doesn’t matter if I "like it" or not. It's a done deal... for me, there is nothing more to discuss on this issue. Thanks for you interest. I am at your service and In HIS Service, Dean <><
Dean Hankey, *M.D. - The Dean of Success Solutions!
Serving & Supporting YOU and Your Success! "Book More Shows... Make More Money... SERVE MORE PEOPLE! - Not Necessarily In That Order…" (*Marketing Doctor) |
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tctahoe V.I.P. Lakeland Fl. 731 Posts |
In the “real world” sure, you might be able to return a DVD to the store where you bought it from, but in the “real world”, millions of those DVD are being sold, so they can ‘eat’ the cost of a couple returns.
Can you return an opened, watched DVD to the store and say “sorry I didn’t like this, can I have my money back?” I don’t know… If a DVD in the “real world” was made for you to copy and re-sell yourself, could you open it, watch it and then return it? I don’t know. Wow, I guess there is a lot I don’t know…. I do know that I have had business dealings with Paul Romhany in the past and will absolutely work with this man in the future. He is one of the most stand-up guys I have ever met. Just my two cents. TC http://www.tctahoe.com |
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Big Al Jnr Regular user Yorkshire, England 155 Posts |
Yes, many MOOT points, I guess the law may be different in the US. In the UK the product has to be defective, ie not operate as described, as opposed to not the correct solution, before a refund is available. Anything else is the retailers or manufacturers goodwill.
If I performed illusions I would certainly customise each one for each client, I wouldn't create a new one for each client, just customise an old one with the company name etc. It's a little different arguament, I guess a MOOT point. If you buy a product off the shelf your bottom line will actually be better off. Making a UNIQUE product costs you more and CARES about your client. Too many MOOT points and differing points of view to discuss here. $150 isn't a great deal and I've certainly wasted a lot more than $150 on other business marketing materials and courses, both magic related and none magic related. I guess it's one of those things to put down to experience. I'm not having a go, I just don't see what all the fuss is over $150.00 Al.
The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and, if they can’t find them, make them. George Bernard Shaw.
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macmagic Veteran user MA 400 Posts |
Wow, the fur is flying in this room! I can see were Dean is coming from.......first of all he did ask a simple question and people jumped all over him about it! I think its a reasonable question!
This product is a Bor product plus a marketing product(you do customize it and put your info on it, right) all marketing or info products I have purchased come with a guarantee, these program have cd's, dvd's etc. that could also be copied and just returned but still carry a guarantee! I think the Dean might also have been trying to drop a subtle helpfull hint to all, that if you purchase this product and it just doesn't fit your style or you feel it won't work for you, too bad your stuck with it! I am sure we have all purchased a magic trick and then after practicing realize its not going to work for my show.........put it on the shelf to collect dust! If that doesn't bother you to throw money away then please give me a call I have plenty of stuff I could sell to ya!
"Its a magic thing...........you wouldn't understand"
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