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boboshempy
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Larry, So what do you think it is? Something electronic built into the table?

Posted: Jul 29, 2005 9:00am
Larry, I just read your other post! Thanks!
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I'd love to use the Electronic Crasher just a bit differently. I find that when I place a plastic drinking cup on top so that the cup is struck on the bottom by the device, the cup launches quite high in the air, making for a very cool PK effect with no glass shards to clean up. I'd like to combine a couple of different PK effects.

The problem with this approach of course is the sound of the cup being struck is quite loud. Does anyone have any ideas to explain this away?
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On 2005-09-07 12:02, enigmar wrote:
"...The problem with this approach of course is the sound of the cup being struck is quite loud. Does anyone have any ideas to explain this away?"


How proficient are you at anticipating when the mechanism will engage? If you're very good at that, instead of trying to explain the noise simply, cover it, for example by clapping at the right time (in advance you've explained that by clapping you can send out energy waves or come up with some other B.S. reason).
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On 2005-09-07 12:02, enigmar wrote:
"...The problem with this approach of course is the sound of the cup being struck is quite loud. Does anyone have any ideas to explain this away?"


How proficient are you at anticipating when the mechanism will engage? If you're very good at that, instead of trying to explain the noise simply, cover it, for example by clapping at the right time (in advance you've explained that by clapping you can send out energy waves or come up with some other B.S. reason).


I tried exactly that, but I can't seem to stay in synch with the mechanism every time, though I can come close. But I'd have to get it just right. Also, the action is very loud; the cup acts as an amplifier of sorts. Even if I use a styrofoam cup instead of a plastic cup I prefer (because its clear) the sound is a bit muffled, but still very loud.

If I were to try to mask the sound, it would have to be a very loud, repeating rapping sound of some type.

Thanks for the suggestion though!!
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Okay, here's another idea. Instead of masking the sound, how about "making the sound and transferring it" as an energy transfer demonstration. Hold an identical cup in your hand, smack it with an object to create a sound identical to that which will be made when the striking mechanism hits the other cup, making a tossing motion with the cup in your hand as if you're tossing the sound to the other cup, and then the other cup jumps as it makes the sound.

Although I'm offering solutions to the effect you're trying to achieve, at the bottom line I like a breaking glass effect better.

Regards, Larry
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On 2005-09-08 08:14, Larry Davidson wrote:
Okay, here's another idea. Instead of masking the sound, how about "making the sound and transferring it" as an energy transfer demonstration.


Larry,

That's a really cool idea! I could do that.

However, I think you're right, in the long run, I may should stick with the glass breaking. Its such a dramatic effect. I'm going to rethink the routine I was working on. I still want to combine some PK effects, but I'll have to do it a little different.
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Presentation Idea:

Performed at a kids show: Have a young girl come up and shatter the glass by screaming.

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If you're worried about excessive screaming than teach the kids about Harmonics. Have them all hum and try to reach the same tone and pitch. a couple of seconds after they begin you can trigger the device then stand away as you coach them towards the correct tone.
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What's the motivation for having the card case under the glass though? I'm very interested in purchasing this.

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Huron its mentioned a few post above, for better visibility to the audience, I use mine all the time. Quality product that delivers everything it says it does.

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Always loved to watch this effect. But always feared that a piece of glass might jump and hit someone. Is it designed where it makes it Implode or is it a definite explode? I know it sounds stupid but I don't know too much about these things. In a close-up worker..
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Little bit confused...

I know the gimmick has to be placed under the glass. BUT does it have to be sandwiched between two glasses? Can it just be placed under one glass and not on top of another one?
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Paisa23, it explodes, it doesn't implode.

RSD, it can just be placed under one glass. It does not have to be sandwiched between two glasses.

Larry
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I really don't see motivation for putting it upside down either. It would be better if filled with wine or something. The liquid would enhance the effect greatly.

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The reason the glass is upside down is that the rim of the glass is thinner than the base. It probably won't break the base. It may just tip it over.
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On 2005-12-20 10:37, hUrOn Low~ wrote:
I really don't see motivation for putting it upside down either. It would be better if filled with wine or something. The liquid would enhance the effect greatly.

Huron


Thanks, Huron! Good !DEA & good thinking!!

Here is what I think a 'Shattering wine Glass' effect should look like.

A wine glass filled with wine (actually colored water) is placed on the table and then the goblet part of the glass shatters. The stem, the base and a part of the goblet should remains intact and in place (i.e. without toppling over).

I have come up with the design of such a prop. Hopefully I should get the prototype all set & ready for my maiden performance in a couple of months.

Huron, thanks (once again!) for a good suggestion.

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I can't tip a friends handling with the crasher, but it is a great little device if you put some effort into the effect.

I recently modified his unit to work from a remote control as it's a long time into the routine before he uses the crasher.

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Paul Harris's vanishing deck gimmick could make it look like you placed an entire deck inside the box. Just to enforce the idea that the box is completley empty.

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No need to over think this, one or two card effects then move on to something else, once the card case is re introduced you should have no heat on the case as you have been using the cards from it. As far as how a shattering glass should look, how many specs have even seen this happen, not a lot so I suggest they probably don't have any preconcieved notions about how it should look when it shatters, they have no idea what is about to happen. Work this in with something else in your routine and it is very magical.

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The amount of questions for such a simple product amazes me.

The gmmick resides within the card case.

The glass goes on top of the card case.

The glass smashes.

End of story!

However use your imagination a little. If it was ME performing it, I would do something along the lines of a living and dead test, with a box belonging to the dead woman being shown. From within the box I would remove two wine glasses, which were wedding presents to her and her husband.

As the final revelation proves that the spectator picked up on the ded womans name, the glass shatters.

Scary, but hey, these sort of effects aren't MEANT to be funny or impressive!

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On 2005-12-20 10:37, hUrOn Low~ wrote:
I really don't see motivation for putting it upside down either. It would be better if filled with wine or something. The liquid would enhance the effect greatly.

Huron


Wouldn't the water proofing be a nightmare? The components and the table as well.
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