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Steve Hart
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What is "Motivational Magic?"

Talk about tricky business. This stuff involves a little bit more "business" than "tricks".

Many years ago, I was approached to do a program for a Chamber of Commerce group.
They wanted some entertainment along with a message for business success. I took the challenge. Years later, I found a growing interest in the combination of magic and speaking.

It took me years to figure out my message and how to use the wisdom passed onto me through books and tapes on success motivation.

Now almost all of my programs are
"Motivational" and entertaining.

Through the fun and the laughter, I am able to pass on the secrets I have found for success.

I have been able to use my magic as a speaker, trainer, and in sales promotions.
Now I am making more than five times the amount of money for my performances and having just as much fun.

Is anyone else finding work in this new form of magic?

Steve Hart
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Steve, I too do motivational magic, I have a whole page dedicated to that service on my website. This was a huge key (gimmick) to attract corporate work who in fact are really one of the few types of our clients that can afford our show!

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I work sometimes in a related way - as I'm primarily a juggler, I offer corporate workshops where juggling is used to help with stress, team building and learning the business benefits of being able to laugh. It is a nice market to work in.

Cheers

ML
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I am new to this area and have developed a Motovational Magic Show for schools. It is based on The Magic Inside programe by C.J. Johnson. You are right Steve about how being able to put a theme or message to your magic opens the way to more money. If you can be a magician as well as a teacher you have just made yourself so much more valuable.
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What themes appear to be the most popular?

With a "motivational" magic show we can communicate a message or a theme that is educational or inspirational.

You have mentioned "stress", "team building",
"therapeutic humor", and "personal developement". These are all strong themes and desirable programs.

What other messages or themes have you presented?

Steve Hart
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I personally found that being able to introduce a new idea, product, or promotion to employees for the company in an entertaining way is probably the most popular form of motivation that our clients have requested. But I can't stress enough how much business is generated by offering this service to our clients. They eat this stuff up. I highly recommend researching the motivation concept for any serious corporate entertainer. It will boost your sales, increase your market, and triple your bookings. It's something for you and your clients to get excited about! Oops there I go again, trying to motivate..

Steve said; "You have mentioned "stress",
"team building", "therapeutic humor", and
"personal developement". These are all strong themes and desirable programs.

What other messages or themes have you presented?"

Steve, are you directing this question to me?
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Where it is true that providing "motivational" (Educational) services to our line of professional offerings... and, though it is also true that motivational presenters are, on the whole, much better compensated for their time and talent, investments, it is not
"just another gimmick" to enhance our so-called "marketing efforts" by misrepresenting or manipulating the fact of the matter for the sake of a
"marketing gimmick"!

Just because anyone can get-up in font of people and do some 'tricks' and then somehow incongruently add the phrase, "Don't do Drugs" or a "Now go-out there and get-'em" sales message without thought-filled consideration and specific extensive training, does not make us a "Motivational Magician"! Just as having a pile of CD's and a stereo system does NOT make you a professional DJ!

If your only purpose (or even dominate reason) for getting into this market is for the incredible income potential, then don't bother! You will end-up hurting someone... and if you do, I will have to hunt you down and hurt you back!! (Just kidding... kind-of.)

Training, coaching, Speaking, Life Enhancement Skills are all "thoughtfully and carefully" acquired skills, just as is good strong magic and presentation skill-sets, and just because you can do magic, does in no-way mean that you can "automatically" be a great "motivational" magician!

...and if you're not "good", you must be bad, and that does no one any good either as a buyer or a seller of "professional solutions" for our friends and business associates, right? (...and our art!)

Can you learn how to be an effective Motivational Magician?

Of course, you absolutely can!

It's not what one might expect from the outside looking in. An ill-equipped, poorly thought out, so called "motivational" magic act is tantamount to a destitute street urchin (a bum) purporting to offering advice on the sound applications and principles of
"Super Successful Living and Financial Abundance". Your messing with peoples lives, and in the case of the under prepared and over zealous magician, (all for the sake of trying to "get-in-on" a profitable and emerging market) one could potentially destroy peoples lives with deliberate mis-information.

Unlike a regular magic show... as a motivational professional, you are purporting to be a passionate proponent and
"expert" on the subjects you choose to present-on. If a magic show goes south, all of magic is negatively impacted by a lousy performance!

If, on the other-hand a misrepresented
"motivational/educational" presentation goes bad, and misinformation is disseminated as truth at the hands of a "perceived" professional and industry expert, lives are at stake, and all on a scam... a bold face lie!

I don't mean to overstate this possible challenge, but we have all known or heard-of this sort of thing happening in magic, right??? ....now add that negative impact to the innocent onlookers and you have a real mess on our hands where no one "wins"!

...fortunately, there IS a positive solution! (WooHoo! Finally Bummer-Man!)

Understand me correctly! I am not pointing fingers or suggesting that no one should consider or delve into the educational/motivational field...

...quite the contrary!

I am "recommending" that you find out all you can about this amazing and profitable (in waaaay more ways than just money!) field of "motivational Magic"!

It's life changing, as a professional presenter when lives are changed, for the better, in-part from what you have to offer!

It's incredibly profitable!

It's incredibly "rewarding"!

...and sooo many positives that there is not enough space on the entire internet to list all the positive benefits and attributes of this sort of transformational work and the lifestyle that it provides for all those who experience it!

The great news is that our very own Steve Hart has the fortitude, wisdom, experience and insights to provide such a solution to those who earnestly seek this sort of training, leadership and mentorship.

I, for one am honored to count as friends trustworthy, friendly, thrifty, brave... uh, sorry, flash-backs to my Scouting days, a true gentleman such as Steve!

If you haven't already, take a look at his site, http://www.Magic2Motivate.com and see what he has to offer.

Steve would never think to suggest that you look around at his site because that's the level of integrity he has. He is a pure and unadulterated "giver" and contributor to all of magicdom and better yet, humankind!

Bless you Steve! (...and Daina!)

Keep in mind that this, is only "one-guys" perspective (mine) and is not meant to be represented as the end all, be all, on this very intricate topic of personal and business development.

I hope this fuels some insightful thought, consideration and further discussion on this powerful topic. Love it or shove it, it's my opinion.

Also, a very special thank you to our illustrious leader and master barista, Steve Brooks for making a forum such as this available so important discussions like this can be made and enjoyed by 100's of 1,0000's of leaders and learners!

I am at your service and in his service,
Deano
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I agree 90 percent with the Dean, as I had STATED above, that you should simply "RESEARCH" the motivational concept! And when done properly you will achive great success for both yourself and your client.

I trained in the motivational concept for several years before adding it to our show. I'm glad I did but like all things the knowledge will not come overnight and will require dedication and hard work for it to be successful. I worked with some of the masters of hypnosis including Salish, and Tony Lee, along with inspiration from Motivational magic master Rick Rossini, in order to launch my motivational skills into the show.

I have to disgree with Dean, and I say that it can be a vaulable tool (or gimmick) to attract a larger market. I'm a salesman which makes me a good business man, that's all I'm saying, while keeping my audience and my clients my number one priorty!!!

I hope you were not directing a threat to me Dean, after I mentioned the word "gimmick", because I take comments like that very seriously (just joking... well kinda)

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Hey Peter, (and all the Magic Café' Family)

OK, let's dialog here... though I'm not sure how you arrived at your position on this... so let's have a looksy, shall we?

PETER:
I agree 90 percent with the Dean, as I had STATED above, that you should simply
"RESEARCH" the motivational concept!

DEAN:
That's EXACTLY what I said too... WooHoo!
See how we AGREE 100% there!?! Chalk one up for US!

If you REMEMBER, I RECOMMENDED that EVERYONE who wishes to learn the insights, skills, experiences and wisdom of several of the very TOP professional motivational presenters on the planet, check-in with Steve Hart and his Magic 2 Motivate success summit.

Go to: http://www.Magic2Motivate.com/workshops.htm

...or Dave Dee: http://www.DaveDee.com

PETER:
And when done properly you will achieve great success for both yourself and your client.

DEAN:
Again, 100% agreement!
Isn't this FUN!?! (Clapping hands with excitement!)

PETER:
I trained in the motivational concept for several years before adding it to our show. I'm glad I did, but like all things the knowledge will not come overnight and will require dedication and hard work for it to be successful.

DEAN:
Again, dead-on my friend.
...are we beginning to see a pattern developing here?

PETER:
I worked with some of the masters of hypnosis including Salish, and Tony Lee, along with inspiration from Motivational magic master Rick Rossini, in order to launch my motivational skills into the show.

DEAN:
COOL! Though I don't know any of those guys, which doesn't mean much since I don't claim to know many or all the professionals out there, and I'm sure they are truly great people.

But STILL, there's NO disagreements here...

I too have been blessed, and have had the incredible good fortune of being mentored by the recognized industry masters. Ormond McGill. (The Dean of Hypnotists) Staffed and trained for Anthony Robbins, the number 1 international human development professional on the planet, who also wrote Unlimited Power and a host of other international best sellers just to name one or two.

Geez, that sounds like a big-fat boast! I apologize!

I didn't mention any of that to "impress-you", I ONLY bring it up to "impress upon you" that I too have a commitment and burning passion for this stuff over the last 25+ years... make sense?

I hope you hear my heart on this issue.

PETER:
I have to disgree with Dean,

DEAN:
Uh-oh... I guess it was bound to happen! (Hehehehehe...)

PETER:
...and I say that it can be a vaulable tool(or gimmick) to attract a larger market.

DEAN:
Hey, I though we were supposed to disagree at this point??? Your not playing by the rules... (Waaaaaa! Pounding fists on the table whilst I throw a tantrum! HeHeHe) ...HEY BUDDY, if we're gunna' disagree then we need to say things that are in disagreement, but as it turns-out, I AGREE with you 100% yet again!!!

I have "zero challenge" with anyone who is a genuinely skilled motivational professional using their training to raise the bar, market their services and "attract a larger market".

As a matter of fact, I think that one who is supremely gifted, passionate and appropriately trained, SHOULD most assuredly take advantage of these resources and skill-sets! It'd be down-right foolish not to... don't ya' think?

My "ONLY" consideration and challenge is with the "untrained" performer going-out and misrepresenting themselves as a trained motivational professional using the
"motivational Name Tag", solely as a
"gimmick" to get more work, and because, through the use of the dis-honest, manipulation of the TRUTH, (Even though
"some" call that "marketing") and then going out and making a mess of the market and peoples lives in a serious way!

THAT'S what I said, and that's what I was referring too...

Being a professional who teaches personal and business development skills "should", by definition, be an individual of "high moral standard and integrity" and NOT some person who is just jumping on the band-wagon of motivational magic for JUST the bigger buck at the end of the gig.

It'd be like some guy who works in a hospital, wearing a white robe trying to pass himself off as a doctor, and then operating on someone without the proper credentials or skills...

NOT a pretty picture and honestly quite dangerous, if not life threatening!! (Especially to the folks who "think" he's a real doctor! Right?)

PETER:
I'm a salesman which makes me a good business man, that's all I'm saying, while keeping my audience and my clients my number one priorty!!!

DEAN:
Oops... there we go AGREEING again! (Now Stop That! ...Hehehehe)

If we keep doing this, we might as well be on the same page on all of this stuff... Gee Wiz, I was looking forward to a healthy debate.

PETER:
I hope you were not directing a threat to me Dean, after I mentioned the word "gimmick", because I take comments like that very seriously (just joking... well kinda)

DEAN:
Did I miss something or am I just having a senior moment? I'm not directing ANY
"threats" of any-kind to anyone.

All I did was post "my perspective" here on The Magic Café for the advancing and on-going consideration and conversation of all who would enjoy (or not) a different thought process... just one-guys opinion. Just as I said in my post.

I hope that helps, adds to the discussion, clears up any misunderstandings and moves along the post count.

As always, I am at your service and in His service,
TheDean - (also know as Deano in Reno)

Bless you all!
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Dean,
Thank you for your reply,

I was under the assumption that you were directing a lot of that particular post at me personally. I apologize for the misunderstanding, but for the record, my last comment in my previous post was a joke, and I was trying to have some fun with you, Again sorry that you didn't see it that way.

I am still curious to see what others have to say about this now very touchy subject... LOL.


Lates,

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Pete,

We cool brother... I got the joke. Just wanted to be more clear, that's all.

I am at your service and in His service,
Deano
Dean Hankey, *M.D. - The Dean of Success Solutions!
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So then,
if everybody is happy

I pose this question...

"What do you get
if you motivate an idiot"??

Answer

Of course

"a motivated idiot"

Think about it for awhile.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

no disrespect for Deano & Steve (hi guys)
but I sometimes worry about "the latest fad"

best thoughts

timothy hyde

http://www.magiccoach.com

p.s. First person to tell me who's quote
the "motivated idiot" line is, wins a copy of all 3 ebooks from our MasterClass series.
Value = priceless

Mailto:help@achieving.com.au

pps. Deano & Steve you are not allowed to win Smile

Timothy Hyde
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Thank you Dean for being bad to the bone and down right honest.

Hey gang, what Dean is saying is correct. In all love and respect, Dean is pointing out the importance of being authentic in our work. You can fool an audience with your magic but don't think you can fool an audience with a poorly prepared motivational message.

You have to start somewhere but beware. Know that this is the risk you take when positioning yourself as a motivational speaker. Audiences can smell BS. Don't fool yourself.

Audiences are hungry for a message spoken from the heart, one with wisdom and insight.
When you drive it all home with a skillful presentation of your magic, you can easily make your point and give them a hook to remember what has been said.

You do this, then you can call yourself, in all respect, a "Motivational Magician."

Thanks Dean, and thank you Timothy for the very funny quote. Ooh Ooh, I know the answer. Lets see if anyone else knows. I love this guy.

Steve Hart
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To the best of my recollection, the quote was attributed to Jim Rohn when I heard it in a sales seminar a little while back...

Could be wrong!

LOL... has the contest expired?
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