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BondJames628
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Which would you guys recommend, a lavalier microphone that clips on the collar, or a headset? Just thinkin about gettin a wireless mic and wanted to see some opinions. Thanks for your input!
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I use a lapel mic...wireless. It doesn't get in the way. I can't stand doing a whole magic show with a mic on my head. That might be just me.
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It's not just you Tyler, I use a lapel style also. The headset mikes definitely have better sound quality and less feedback issues (see other threads), but if you get a good lapel mike the problems a minimized.

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I use a headset wireless mic. It has a very small mic that is almost unnoticable. It's comfortable and delivers excellent sound. If your act does not involve a lot of physical activity, a lapel mic will work ok. I demand high quality with my sound, which is why I bought a great sound system and went with a headset wireless mic. To each their own. What works for me may not work for you. I am very active on stage and found lapel mics too tinny, and too much feedback. I love what I have and would never use a lapel mic. I have unique needs and performance styles that could only be done professionally with a headset.
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I own a wireless lavalier (I believe that's how it's spelled...). Anyhow, it works quite well, and if you're going to purchase a wireless mic, try going with a multi frequency transmitter, just in case you're in an area where someone's already broadcasting something on the frequency you're on. All you have to do is flip the switch and you're on a new channel- (hopefully) without any interference.
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That is a great point Rimeister! I use a dual diveristy system that eliminates any CB or any interference. Nothing worse than someone that breaks into your show electronically!!
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I use a headset mic, and have been VERY happy with how it works!

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Where are good places to get headset mics? Online? Are they a lot more expensive than lapel mics?
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On 2005-03-25 13:58, muzicman wrote:
That is a great point Rimeister! I use a dual diveristy system that eliminates any CB or any interference. Nothing worse than someone that breaks into your show electronically!!


[buzzer goes off] Sorry, thanks for playing, please try again. Diversity receivers have NOTHING to do with eliminating interference. They minimize dropouts in reception (I'll leave the detailed explanation for another time and place). Trust me, if there's any sort of transmitter in the area you're in on the same frequency or one that can interfere with it (again, I'll leave the detailed explanation of intermodulation and other causes of interference for another time and place), a diversity system won't help you at all. The one has nothing at all to do with the other.

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Saved me a job there andy! But to answer the question I use a Headset mike , Using one of these means you can be more physical, also unless you have a lot of money to spend on a lapel mike you are going to have a hell of a lot of feedback issues and bad sound. Head mikes can be picked up reasonably cheap . I don't know any american sites so I cant help but I would recommend senheisser. I don't know if the retail in the states but I use two of them and they rock. Multi frequency, well built, metal cased belt pack , they'll take a beating and still come back for more!
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Try http://www.fullcompass.com. They have rock bottom prices. Make sure you talk to a sales rep, and ask for a lower price, free shipping, etc. I prefer a headset. It has much better sound and less feedback. However, if you buy a $100 feedback destroyer, then it will eliminate ALL feedback on a lapel mic.
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Hi there,

I've just looked at the Fullcompass site and checked out some of the senhiesser and other brand wireless headworn microphone systems. Although good, they seem to cost a pretty penny.

Here in Taiwan where I live I can get products from the Mipro company for very cheap prices. For example a headworn wireless microphone system for only around $400US. If you look at their website: http://www.mipro.com.tw and check out their MR-801 UHF single channel true diversity reciever they have some info on it. I've used it and it works really well. They also make beige (almost flesh) colored subminiature headworn mics that look very nice indeed. MH-55HN, which can be connected to the transmitter. These are very cheap compared to other high priced top of the line models, however in my opinion and from many years of using them here in Taiwan (over 12 years now) they deliver a very nice and clear sound.

If you want I can send digital pics of these items, and can also help anyone buy them here, and send them either through DHL or the post.

Give me a PM if you have any questions or are interested.

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Mic salesmen are worse than car salesman. This guy told me the dual diversity would eliminate interference...something about picking the best channel. Well, he convinced me it was worth the extra clams. I bought it as well as some timeshares, some diet pills and something to increase my........uh, my......,
oh ya........ my memory!
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It is worth it. Just not for that reason. Anybody who buys a non-diversity receiver is asking for poor reception.

And your salesguy is not trying to scam you, either he's misinformed, or you misunderstood him. Both receivers in a diversity system are receiving the same signal on the same frequency. The only difference is in physical location and orientation. This way, when the transmitter moves into a dead spot in the room, odds are good that the dead spot will only be for the one antenna, and the other will still be getting a strong enough signal. The processor inside the receiver chooses whichever antenna has the stronger signal at any given moment in time, thus minimizing dropouts. Make sense?
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Well, I feel better now. I really do like the wireless headset. It's got really good sound and it's lightweight, and comfortable! There is a mute switch that I use when climbing in and out of boxes. I run the mic through an Alesis digital effects unit and use just a hint of delay, and sometimes a chorus effect as well.
I don't like a totally dry signal, even when speaking. I do't overdo the effects, which is easily done. I also have a noise gate but I honestly don't think it does much as the headset is virtually quiet when I'm not talking. I have NEVER had any problems with interference or dropouts. And all this time, I thought it was because of what the saleman told me. Thanks for clearing that up!
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JoJo,
You have to call to get the best price. Most distributors will not list their lowest price because of agreements they sign with the manufacturer to not sell below a certain price. I'm sure you can get a lower price in Taiwan, but in the states they are among the lowest price retailers I have found.
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Hi Socalmagic,

On the fullcompass site they were listing prices for all the units they were selling. I was using that site as the reference in my post above. I'm sure you're right when you say the prices in the states are quite cheap.

When I bought a battery operated PA system for a magician in NZ it was less than half the price he would have paid if he was to buy it from a store over there.

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I love my Countryman E6 Omnidirectional Microphone, available at
http://www.countryman.com

Here's the same microphone at Full Compass
http://www.fullcompass.com./Products/pag......dex.html

(I'd buy the 2mm cable, as it's more durable.)
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No doubt a great mic. It should be if the price for the mic only is $488. For the professional who does full stage and large illusion shows, I can see the need.

For those who don't need such ultra high class mics, I still say you can get a great sound and high quality complete UHF receiver,with subminature headworn mic, and body transmitter for less than one Countryman E6, sent to anywhere in the world. Send me a PM if I can help you with this.

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$100 feedback destroyer, then it will eliminate ALL feedback on a lapel mic


Hey Andy, what do you think about these? Worth it? I have a handheld wireless I hang on my neck and to get it fairly loud I turn it up. Sometimes there is a little feedback.

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