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mouliu
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Any novels with magic element you've read?

1)The Magician Of Lublin by Issac Singer

2)The Vanished Man by Jeffery Deaver

Please add on the list. And no, no Harry Potter please.
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There are hundreds of them. Buy Michael Canick's checklist of magic fiction books. The question I've been trying to answer is what is the earliest work of fiction with a magic theme or a magician in it? Clay
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That's an interesting premise for research -

I know Mr Shevlin has a starting point for a book of that nature and I would be interested in his answer

What is the earliest novel that has a pretidigitator as a main character?

As a person who reads at least two novels a week, I will be thinking about this all weekend....and make believe magic doesn't count, right? - no dragons or fairies or anything.... nor religious magic - saints and water walking, sea parting, fishes and loaves or ascensions.

We're talking about real magic as a recurring theme - Making cards do impossible things - making balls jump from cup to cup when they're finished multipying, floating hypnotized girls and real magical stuff.

OK .... I'm going to have fun with Mr Shevlin's question I hope everyone else will also

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Carter Beats The Devil - Glen David Gold
The Dime Museum Murders - Daniel Stashower
The Floating Lady Murder - Daniel Stashower
The Houdini Specter - Daniel Stashower
Now You See It - Stuart Kaminsky
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Well, Dave, we know we can certainly go back to Hoffmann and his Conjurer Dick, which I think was first published in 1885. I am waiting to locate a set of books published around 1832, which I'm told has a magician as a character, although, until I read it, I don't know if this character has a major role in the book. Clay

P.S. I'm excluding for consideration 19th century magician's pitchbooks, all of which almost certainly had an element of fiction in them! C.
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Oh, the Michael Canisck's book is out of print.

Other than answering "the earliest work" question, I would like to read some books which are still available. Thanks a lot.

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On 2005-04-14 23:23, Clay Shevlin wrote:
There are hundreds of them. Buy Michael Canick's checklist of magic fiction books. The question I've been trying to answer is what is the earliest work of fiction with a magic theme or a magician in it? Clay
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Oh, all of them are not available in Taiwan National Library...poor me.

Anyone can suggest some which are more easily accessible?

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Carter Beats The Devil - Glen David Gold
The Dime Museum Murders - Daniel Stashower
The Floating Lady Murder - Daniel Stashower
The Houdini Specter - Daniel Stashower
Now You See It - Stuart Kaminsky
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I have a copy of KING KOKO by Professor Hoffman dated 1904 - I couldn't tell you if it's a 1st edition

This is an unique book because it has a cute little story with lots of tricks incorporated within - then Prof. Hoffman has a 2nd section in the book with all the explanations of the tricks in the story - That's the earliest dated book I have in my library

Of course I've heard of the CONJURER DICK book but haven't had a copy to read as of yet

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I know that G.K. Chesterton has a Father Brown mystery story called "The Absence of Mr. Glass," that has a magician in it, but that's a short story. He also wrote a play called "Magic," but the magician's tricks start becoming real miracles that even he can't explain, so maybe that doesn't count.
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"Fifth Business" by Robertson Davies
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On 2005-04-16 23:45, mouliu wrote:
Oh, all of them are not available in Taiwan National Library...poor me.

Anyone can suggest some which are more easily accessible?



mouliu,

You may want to try bookfinder.com Its a wonderful source for new and used book sellers.

Good luck!

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Don't forget the short story, The Magic Shop by H.G. Wells. (Author of The Invisible Man) It scared me as a youngster.
My favourite magic Novel is ' The Man Who Was Magic' by Paul Gallico, a very well lknown author. The Mrs. Harris books (Angela Lansbury did the film of one) The Snow Goose,The Poseidon Adventure etc. The Man Who Was Magic is a fairy tale But Gallico shows great insight to magicians of a certain period; their lack of ethics, their jealousies, their sheer theatricalism etc. The chapter on the Magic Competition in the city of Mageia will make you avoid entering competitions again!
You will most certainly recognise the various types who appear. it's hugely enjoyable.
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Oh and two more which I like. Sherlock Holmes & The Egyptian Hall Mystery and Sherlock Holmes & The Houdini Birthright. Both by val Andrews & published by Martin Breese, 164, Kensington Park Road, London W11 2ER Fax 0171 229 3395.
The Houdini book has a strange , coincidental story around it. Val Andrews had just published it when it was announced that someone in America had investigated Houdini's grave with ultra sonic equipment and said 'There was no body in the coffin.' Read the book to see the coincidences. Was Houdini alive and living in ?
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52 Ways to Magic America by James Flint
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Elephants in the Distance is the first book I can remember reading by Daniel Stashower. It was about a magician who thought his father died doing the Bullet Catch and when he is asked to recreate it for television, other magicians start turning up dead around him.

Great read.
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On 2005-04-29 12:31, Magicbarry wrote:
"Fifth Business" by Robertson Davies


I second this, and the other volumes of the Salterton trilogy, as I have done in the past on similar threads. Pleased to see that Derren Brown also recommended Robertson Davies, who is a good read also from a general point of view.
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not magic per se, but more towards gambling. with magic references here and there, but anyways, if you haven't already read Grift Sense by James Swain, and his many other follow up novels then you should definitely check them out. they're a page turner
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"The Houdini Girl" by Martyn Bedford
"World of Wonders" by Robertson Davies (Volume 3 of the Deptford Trilogy, of which "Fifth Business" is volume 1)
"Mr. Mysterious and Company" by Sid Fleischman (children's book)
"The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Klay" by Michael Chabon
"The Magician's Assistant" by Ann Patchett
"The Magician" by Sol Stein
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If you like houdini tricks get houdini on magic
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On 2005-05-19 21:13, the_houdini_jester wrote:
If you like houdini tricks get houdini on magic


Could you give us a synopsis of the plot?
Is it thriller, romance, supernatural?
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