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Jeremy L.
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I've been thinking about making my own close up pad. Has anyone built one before? What should I use to cover it? Are there instructions on building them anywhere?
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Why not just use the padded material they use for headliners in automobiles?

I live in Alabama. The "stuff" is really cheap here. It's about $8/yard but the material is at least five feet wide! It must come in two dozen colors.

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Contact a business in your area that resurfaces pool tables. Inquire as to the availability of scrap felt.

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Well, we don't have a pool table repair place around here. Maybe I could go to Walmart or something and find felt? Oh, and what could I use for the foamy stuff on the bottom of the pad? Thanks.

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If not felt is your thing, you could try some synthetic material like velveteen or like. I just wouldn't use any fabric that is too "furry" so to speak. There's some nice materials that could fit the bill that are used in car upholstery. So do look in upholstery stores.
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Headliner material is very good for a pad, and it already has a 1/4" foam backing. The problem is, it is super lightweight and not skid proof. It will move all over the place when you are using it, especially on a slick surface. One thought would be to back it with something. I have seen at WalMart, some rubber-like pads that I think are shelf liners (like for stacking plates and cups). It may be possible to attach this to the back with spray adhesive.

Velvets and velveteens make wonderful surfaces to work on, and look very elegant, but you'll need to have finished edges of some type, because a raw cut edge will just fray.

The billiard felt is really good. It is not truly felt in the craft felt sense, but a beautiful weave wool. I have it covering one table top. Same story on the edges. They must be finished or they will fray. The store where I found mine was not willing to sell scraps cheap. Apparently, there is a use for even those in their industry. Not sure how. The least expensive of their fabrics were cut from a larger roll by the yard (or possibly foot), and it was costly enough to make you want to be sure you know what you are doing before you start to use it. A mistake on a 20" x 30" table top can get expensive fast.

Avoid any fabric that has a nap (see too "furry" above). Johnson used to make a pad that had a longer nap to it. A friend owned one and he complained about locking sets like Scotch and Soda actually catching a bit of the nap and locking themselves to the pad during use!

For padding under the surface, you can find some 1/4" foam in a roll. WalMart may have this, but most good fabric stores do. You may also use, as I did under the billiard felt, some roll batting that I found at WalMart. You can add layers until you get the thickness you desire. Use spray adhesive lightly to apply each next layer. This keeps the layers from sliding and separating. What I like about this is it has just enough give to allow for table shuffles, but it is not as springy as foam. Coins and such don't bounce as much.

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At the risk of appearing to be a total maroon, what type of store would be the best source for headliner mater?

Thanks.....

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I seem to remember Doc Eason saying he used a piece of material from diving suits, because it was srong and waterproof for bar use. However, I wouldn't know where to get this.
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Hancocks Fabrics sell headliner material in the South.

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For the additional padding (backing material) I recommend bubble wrap. At the proper time you have built in sound effects (or a therapy device) Smile
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What you could also do, seeing as you are making your own close-up pad, is cut a piece of hardboard, with slots in it, wide enough to store cards or coins. This is fixed to the underside of the pad. Another sheet of hardboard, the same size but without the gaff cuts, attached to the very bottom will ensure that the coins/cards don't fall out. You now have your very own gimmicked close up pad, great for switching and producing.
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By the way a tip for pool/snooker table felt. We just got our table recovered and though there were some nicks in the cloth I was able to make a board with a 18" x 24" surface with an un nicked part of the felt.

Pool and snooker halls get their tables recovered every once in a while. Ask around a couple of places and since they'd have no use for the old cloth they'd probably give you it. It makes a very nice mat. Recovering tables is an expensive job so they try to recover as little as possible but you may be lucky.

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Re Headliner: Look (or Google search) for a place that sells automotive upholstery, or perhaps a place that reupholsters automobiles.

... and yes, Hancock Fabrics has a decent selection, too!

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If you want the easiest and cheapest way of making a close-up pad go to Wal-mart. Go in the craft section and find the foam pads they have and the felt they carry. Some of the felt or foam does sometimes come with adhesive already on it. Just stick the two together and you now have a cheap close-up pad that doesn't move. You could always try any of the craft stores in your area as well. I have made tons of these for some magicians here and they loved that they were cheaper than buying one from a magic shop and they got to choose the color of the foam and the color of the felt. There are many colors to choose from. Hope this helps.
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Lenhart greene used a common throw rug available for $10 just about anywere. Some may not like the size, but you can cut up old scaps of carpet. I found this is the chaepest and works the best. It is nice to have a really large close-up mat for some effects.
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Contact me and I can give you contact information for Patrick from Toledo who produces the pads I use.

high recommendations...

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I know this is an older post, and I didn't read the entire things. So if t his has been mentioned, please forgive the re-idea Smile

When ive made close up pads, ive always made a wooden frame, decorated it and finished it however I wanted it to look, and placed a sheet of correctly cut neopriene(sp?) (The stuff they make wet suits out of) on the top. If you make the wooden base with a lip, the meapriene fits in perfectly. This also allows you to wash the performing surfice if it gets dirty, as well as change the color of the top if your mood strikes.

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Hey I made a close-up board from some pool table felt when we got our table recovered. I used the stuff that was on the table before it got recovered. There were a few nicks in it but I was able to find enough unnicked material to cover a 18 x 24" canvas board with it.

I put wadding in between them and I thought it worked out well but it actually had far too little density. So now I'm looking for foam and can't find any here in Monaghan. I'm wondering if the foam from the link above or maybe 2 layers of it would be good to use for it?

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Thanks for the help and links!
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