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Magicman0323
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For those of us that work with doves, and even if you don't. What's your personal favorite dove effect. I'm curious to see the different responses here. Smile Smile
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Ummmmmmm, mine would probably have to be my dove from cards, using an invisible dove harness and my vanishing dove cage. Then again I love my dove from silk and my dove from gloves. I guess I love them all.
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Well... I dunno if this counts but I do a cage to parakeet.

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I can't remember where I saw it, but somebody bounces a red rubber ball on the floor and when it comes back up it is a red dove. great.
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I think the Sleeve toss with returning dove. I am currently training Solid White Ringneck doves to do this. I thought about selling them, but only about 20% of the doves catch on quickly to this maneuver. It's a lot of work.
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Kendrix, the sleeve toss is a great opener but I'm curious about how you came up with the 20% figure? As a dove worker, I have had up to 28 doves at one time and all but one of them performed the feat within a very short time. That's almost 100%.

Maybe I've just had the smartest birds in the world. Maybe it's the way you are trying to perform the effect. Send me a PM if you want and I'll explain several different ways to make it happen.

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I am not saying that more will not learn the sleeve toss if one persists. I said ~20% learn it readily. You may be better at it than I am. I use a narrow hallway with black backdrop and spot light in front of them. I have seen many acts where they end up on the ceiling or chandilier (probably a no-no for the sleeve toss). I start at 3-4 months of age.
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Its an oldie but a goodie... I use it at all my shows... Balloon to Dove. I have an old tray I purchased at an auction and have repainted and touched up and have had in my show for about 1 1/2 years now! Always gets that nice gasp sound from the crowd we all love to hear. I don't have it (but would like to if anyone has one they want to get rid of!) DOVES FROM AIR (I think it is called this). This is the very pretty effect where it looks like one magicain catches the doves in a "net" on a pole and deposits them nicely in to a cage like holder on the table (one man model) or into the waiting hands of an assistant (two person model).
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On 2002-10-15 20:15, Kendrix wrote:
I use a narrow hallway with black backdrop and spot light in front of them. I start at 3-4 months of age.


There is certainly nothing wrong with the method you are using to train your doves for the sleeve toss. I have never done it that way. I don't even begin the sleeve toss until my birds almost fly from one hand to another on their own without a little toss. Then I start the toss out. I've always trained them in my basement which is my practice room and has props set up all around. This seems to get them used to flying to my hand and not another object. I think we all use what works for us and there are multiple ways to accomplish the same result. Smile

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Hi folks, I'm new on this site. I joined about a week ago. I've only posted once before, where I asked how to find films of Channing Pollock and other great dove workers performing. Maybe some of you could help me out. (I used to do a dove act when I was a teenager.) Lately, I have gotten back into magic.

My favorite dove effect was first done by General Grant, (as far as I know.)
He won the contest for originality at a magician's convention in Bridgeport Ct. back in 1955 for the following effect: he tosses a dove into the air which then turns into a white silk which flutters down from the air into his waiting hand. A very pretty and crowd pleasing effect. I remember seeing
Channing Pollock also do it when he returned from Europe in 1960. I don't think Channing was doing the dove to silk effect before he left for Europe, about 1956. I seem to remember the General doing it first, but I could be wrong. Does anyone know for sure? The above effect is now considered public domain, since so many dove workers do it. Smile
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I like Neil Foster's Dove Production. With his flawless handling, this always looks good. I was fortunate enough to see his act a couple of times at the Abbotts Get Together. Smile
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I'll always love the 'Toss Vanish' - particularly by Shimada. For those of you who haven't exprienced this, get The Greater Magic Video Libary - SHIMADA Vol. 2!
Amazing and beautiful magic. God I love that act! Shimada, once again, will astound you.

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The coolest production to me is Joseph Gabriel's when he used to do the dove on shoulder thing when he would like go to put the cane away....man that thing was freakin' cool. It just got you every time. And I saw this one guy do a mechanical dove that turned to a real one when he tossed it out, I have no idea where it came from because it was in the middle of his act after two sleeve tosses Smile
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The best one is 'Toss Vanish', it is real magic...
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I also like the one where the magician bounces three balls off of the floor and the balls turn into doves.

If anyone has any info on how to do this please write it here or PM me!!

Thanks
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Magicman0323.

"Torn and Restored Dove" immediately comes to mind--especially in front of impressionable young minds filled with mush. If you get caught and fail in your restoration, I'd immediatley follow up with an effect called "A Lunch of Peking Dove" .

Just kidding. I am owned by a wonderful 20-month old Umbrella Cockatoo.

Turk

PS For what it's worth, I love the "bouncing ball changing into a dove" effect. I think that that is so very magical. I never tire of seeing it performed.
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The magician "Greg Frewin" who bounces the balls has a very unique and awesome act. I love his opener where he is holding a sling shot and a white ball. He pulls back on the ball and shoots it out, the ball looks like it tranforms into the dove in mid-air. It flies over the audience and then back to Greg.

Very Cool! Smile
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Double dove from silk
Dove to silk (with tail coat)
dove one cane

Those are my favorites.
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Greg's act is truly awesome. I plan to pick up his dove work dvd things. I hear he is opening his own theatre at Niagra Falls. I'll definitely try to see him.
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Yeah how the heck did that guy do that mechanical dove to real dove after two sleeve tosses Dan. I'll never tell.

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