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Eric Leclerc
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Watch steals.. I have bought a few books and videos over the years and I just recently started to take the education I learnt from them in action. I love the reaction it gets, now my question is, besides SPONGE BALLS what trick do you do to your "victim" to grab his wrist for 15 seconds?
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In Gregory Wilsons "on the spot" He talks about his favorite trick to do when going for a watch steal. I think it would probably work well for you.

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Most of the watch steals I have witnessed, involve a coin transposition of some kind (pretty violent).

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Eric Leclerc
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Yeah I agree about the violent shakes that look out of place.
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I do a watch steal using the Magicians handcuffs (Rubber bands). I've been doing this for a while now. I do still occasionally get caught, but if you’re looking for another routine to use then, this is definitely a great trick to use. You're right though; the reaction is great when your steal is successful.
Good luck.
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Watch steals for me are a sub-set within a larger routine. Sponge balls, Gregory Wilson's method, coins across, even Blaine does a watch steal with a card transposition in the spec's hands. If I get caught I use a couple of Gregory Wilson's responses or I immediately go into Mr. Osterlinds time prediction effect involving two spectators.

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Roland Henning
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Card Stab: The spectator is holding a bag with the cards. The magician holds the spectator by the wrist and shakes the bag to shuffle the cards.
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If you haven't seen Greg Wilson's "On the Spot," check it out. He offers lots of good ideas on a watch steal, including timing. Well worth the money.

Cheers,

Tiki
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Sponge balls (bunnies) Crazy mans hand cuffs and Lethal Tender coin set are my favorites. I also have done it while stuffin a silk into their hand. Don't worry I don't give them a TT.
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Yeah, the card stab routine was on Kevin King's Watch Bandit.
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I have not used this myself, but I saw Tony Oberio from Seattle use an invisible deck very effectively. It added great comidy as people are working with cards that are not really there, and since they can't see the cards Tony has to keep showing them what to do with their hands.
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I personally have incorporated a watch steal in my thumb cuff routine.

Anytime you have an opportunity to shield a spectator’s hand with a silk momentarily, why not be a klepto?
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The watch steal is one of the highlights in my close-up and parlor act and I thought that I had a great bit until I came across Peter Gross’s routine for the revel of the watch that can be seen by going to his web page here is the link. http://www.funnymagic.com/videos.html

It does not show the steal that he actually uses but the revel is very funny and creative probably one of the best that I have ever seen and has inspired me to look into ways to make the revel of my routine even better.

Regarding the taking of the watch there are several good sources for material but one that comes to mind if you do not like the idea of the shaking the assistant’s hands with a coin bit is the DVD by Kevin King, titled Watch Bandit. He has some good ideas on the DVD, although I do not really care for the routine that he uses while he is taking the watch the principles that he uses can be applied to other magic effects that involve audience participation.
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Wow, Peter has a great reveal!

I only hope that members of the Café who watch the video are mature enough to watch it without stealing Peter's routine! That is a really nice reveal.
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Daegs,
I couldn't agree with you more regarding the stealing of Peter's routine. As I said I think that it has inspired me to look at my routine a bit closer to see where I can improve on it and make it better, and I hope that others do the same without outright coping it. His paper balls routine was really good too.

Kris
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Eric Leclerc
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Just spent an hour on this guy's website. I think he's amazing, VERY good performer. I don't think anyone would steal that routine because it's so personalized to him. Plagiarism would be evident.
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Eric,
Welcome to the wacky world of magic, this type of thing happens all of the time.

Kris
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Eric Leclerc
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Thanks for "welcoming me" to the world of magic by the way.

I meant you couldn't really rip it off and not get it noticed. Other tricks and presentations are different because a little thing changed can disguise a whole routine. But as for this effect, ripping it off would be evident.
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I absolutely agree with you but it happens all of the time.

Just take a look at some of the magicians out there the next time that you are at an IBM meeting or convention you can tell exactly who is doing whose work directly off of the last TV special or latest DVD release. For example the Ammar tapes, I see people doing his presentations word for word all of the time this is particularly evident on the local level. I have seen people using the exact same routines as Blaine, Copperfield, and Burton a week after there TV specials the one that particularly killed me was this guy that I saw doing the Lance bit where he gives the kid a penny and tells them to go and tell there parents that the Magician said if they put the magic penny under there pillow it will turn into a dollar. This was done line for line exactly like Lance did it on his special and the guy was passing it off as his own. When I asked him about it (without telling him that I was a magician) he said that he had thought it up and that the parents got a real kick out of it.

Please do not read any disrespect into my welcoming comment it was sarcastic in nature. I was just pointing out the obvious that some people will not invest any time into creating there own original material, like Mr. Gross did so well. Worse even is that they will try to pass off the work of others as there own until someone questions them about it. I in no way am attempting to say that this is the majority of magicians out there on the contrary I think that it is the 10% that would do it but it does happen a lot.

Again no disrespect meant at all you and I are on the same sheet of music.

Kris
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How about while using Kenton Knepper Black Tie?
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