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Steve Brooks
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Okay...I'll admit it, I have a set of Bumper linking rings, and I never use them.



Sure, I have excuses. The masked magician exposed them, yada, yada, yada.

But everytime I see them performed, I keep thinking; "I have got to start doing this!".



Truth is, I have never found a routine that really fits my style. The closest I've seen is Whit Hayden's routine.

Any ideas and or suggestions? Smile
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Tom Cutts
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The rings are an enigma. They require a routine which can be quite involved. Each move feeds off the last and into the next.



The best way to get to íyourí routine is get the things in your hands and work, work, work. Try lots of different stuff existing and lots of stuff not existing. Toss the rings around, see how they move and react to each other. This can lead to originality.



They will begin to tell their own story and let you know what the presentation is that is inside you.



All sounds kind of meta physical but it is not. It is interactive learning.



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Steve Brooks
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Thanks for your input Tom! Smile
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Yes, the rings have been exposed--many, many times. And yet, they remain one of the strongest routines in my act. The key (pardon the expression) is to have the "magic state of mind" when performing them. In other words, don't think, "Everyone can tell what I'm doing--they know how this works!" or "Okay, slide this ring through the gap..." Rather, you should be thinking, "This is so cool, the way these solid rings are melting right through each other!" Even if some know the secret, they can still be entertained by your presentation and skillfull handling and construction.



True story (and one that I'm sure others have experienced): After a show, a gentleman came up to me to thank me. He commented that he particularly liked the linking rings. He said he had a set at home, but one of HIS had a big gap in it! I leaned toward him and whispered, "Yeah, that's the beginner's set!"
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Now that's funny! Smile
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Hi, everybody.



To answer Steve, the book "Three Chinese Rings" by Lewis Ganson (A Supreme Magic Publication) is a good way to start. The book deals with three ring routines from: Rex Taylor, Aldo Colombini and some linking and unlinking moves.



I use to perform linking rings for many years, and I now perform them closeup with my 12-inch rings. People of all ages seem to enjoy a nice routine. Even after exposure on national TV, I still enjoy a good symphony of the rings.



Andre Le Magicien



Excuse my french! Smile
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Steve Brooks
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Alright you guys, just so you know, I got my rings out this afternoon, and have been messing with them all evening. Smile
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The problem with most ring routines is they are overlong. Once you have linked two solid steel rings and unlinked them the effect is over.



My routine uses no key. I had a set made by a local welder. They are a little over 5 inches in diameter but are made with a thick (greater than ľ inch) rod. They look and feel (and are) solid. They were plated first brass then nickel (the only expense in building the set). They are small enough to be carried in my jacket pocket and large enough to be seen by a fairly large audience.

The routine involves handing the two rings out for examination to different parts of the audience. (far stage left and far stage right) They are taken back and immediately handed out to someone in the middle section of the audience, linked! The spectator is asked to stand up and show them linked. I go on with my act, later I take them back and show them linked and immediately hand them to another spectator unlinked. She shows them unlinked.

Thatís it! Ok, there is, a lot of by-play with the audience and tons of gags. But that is the basic routine.

No Key, no moves, no proving.
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Hear, hear, mumblepeas.

The single biggest problem with "classics" like the Linking Rings is that they go on too long.

I shudder when someone, or a dealer ad, says, "You can get 12 minutes out of this."

Twelve minutes is an eternity on stage.

Three minutes is an eternity on stage.

Do one or two minutes -- believe me, it will seem like 20 minutes to you!

cheers,

Peter Marucci
Tom Cutts
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An "on" night for an "on" performer might find them getting ten minutes out of saying "Hello" and introducing themselves to the audience.



The reason routines seem to go on too long is that they are about the props. When one abandons those shackles and starts performing magic about the audience or about something other than rings or cups or wands or..., THEN one is ready to entertain an audience for a good long time.



Too many magicians unfortunately don't seem to get this.
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Hey!! GreatScott!!
I think I have been taken!!!
They gave me a BEGINNERS SET!!!
I think theyíre BROKEN!!!


Bengi Smile Smile Smile
Peter Marucci
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Yeah, I know what you mean; I got a set and two of them were welded together.

Shoddy workmanship! Smile

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Peter Marucci
Wallace
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The late Al Koran of the UK had a great routine with 3 rings. I believe that Ken Brooke marketed it as '3 Silver Rings' some 30 years ago....a wonderful routine if memory serves! Smile
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I made a set from craft rings. There are 5 9" rings. And I paid around 35 cents each. Ok Iím cheap but Iím not going all out on exposed tricks unless I can get some enjoyment out of it.....



I need a short good routine. Any suggestions?



Tim

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I looked around for a while for a good routine. The Dai Vernon routine is meant to last approx. 3 minutes and uses only 6 of the rings. I've added some stuff but found it best not to go over 4 or 5 minutes.



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I agree, the Vernon routine is great. Most magicians, myself included, tend to stay away from the rings because of their exposure. But the effect is really very strong if presented correctly, even if the specs know the method. I donít recall who said it but itís true, most audiences are aware of the method or secret but unaware of the effect.
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Hi,

I use the linking rings a lot. I will use them in about 50 of my 60+ shows this month
and I have used them for over 20 years. So I think I know the linking rings.

Personally, I would look at the routine in Terry Seabrooks book as a starting point, learn the Odin count explained in "Ken Brooke and Friends" which allows you to count the rings singly from hand to hand rather than drop counting.

I favour a five ring comedy patter routine,
and once you have been doing the rings for a few years get a Klamm locking key. Do not buy one straight away, mind you, as it is something extra to learn, opening and shutting the key. Your gap is smaller and offset and is not really needed-itís just really a finesse.

The Koran three ring routine is still available in a manuscript from whoever in your country supplies "Ace Place Magic." I think itís "Stevens Emporium" there in the US

phillip Smile
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The rings are something I really enjoy.

I know a lot of answers to how magic is done. I still donít know exactly how the rings work, I have not seen them close up. Sometimes I like it that way, not knowing how something is done, thatís entertainment not trickery. Thatís why I love magic so much, there is always a mystery out there somewhere.

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Peter Marucci
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Donít worry about the rings being over-exposed.

In fact, Joe Dunninger (I believe) used to capitalize on the fact by having TWO key rings.

One he showed to the audience, saying that was how most magicians did the linking rings but he was not going to insult their intelligence by using something so obvious. And he would toss the key off the stage and go into a seemingly miraculous routine -- using the second key!

A true case of: When life hands you a lemon, make lemonade.

cheers,

Peter Marucci
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I love the rings myself, but it took me some time to like them. I couldnít find a routine that matched my style. I prefer mostly dramatic magic, but somehow 12 rings or 8 rings or even 6 rings were just too much. I didnít like standing there repeating the 300 different ways to link a bunch of rings.

Some people can pull this off, I canít. Some people think they pull this off. Most donít. Like others have said, try playing around with two or three rings. To this day I enjoy what can be done with just two. Thereís even a method out there for linking two solid rings. (if you want Iíll send you a personal message on the subject)

Just play with them and pretend what youíre doing is real. That sounds obvious, but it really does work and we usually forget that each time we get a new trick.


Cheers,

Sable Smile
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