Which gets a better reaction? Both should get very good reactions. If not the performance of it was not done well. Both effects can become confusing for the spectator if you do not establish what is supposed to be happening.

I do 1's to 20's. I have adjusted the patter to fit the bills I use.

I am still forming an opinion on reactions overall, I've only been doing it a couple weeks.

As far as security: I have been mugged at gunpoint, missplaced props and left a closeup case unattended from time to time, so I happen to think carrying that much money around is a bad idea. Especially SHOWING EVERYONE THAT YOU HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLAR BILLS on your person. That's just asking for trouble. Heaven forbid a desperate person or pickpocket is ever in your audience.

One of the benefits I use of Mark Allen's 3-D cash is that I change the bills from $1s to $10s and stop there if it is too public of a place. I usually proceed to $100's (because I am usually asked to make $100's). Though if the environment is not right, I'll put the $10's away and leave it at that.

I have 3D cash and made up the gimmick. I have never been able to get the handleing down to my satisfactiona dn have not performed it publicly. Is the Hundy 500 easier to do or are they essentially the same?

Thanks,
Bruce

I do a 1's to 20's routine and carry it around all day. In fact, it's sooo handy if I'm broke and have to buy something to use the gimmick as a fallback and replace it later.

I used 1's to 5's but now I'm looking for fake bills the same size as regular for fake to real bills.

Fccfp,
I have 3dcash and have the same problem. Without you telling me I probably already know what you're talking about. I was wondering the same about hundy 500 because when I first got 3dcash I was really into it. After the problem it kind of took the wind out of my sails.

Jim

I don't know what problems you guys are having with 3D Cash, but Hundy 500 is very easy to do. The handling is so easy you don't need to think about it after you've learned it.

Just to report back in- the reactions to this trick have exceded my expectations. (i'm using the 1's to 20's)

Well I wish I could but my audience a lot of times are street fellows and nightclub cats along with the rest. For me to be on a safer side I do 1's to 5's

For people with 3D cash...why don't you do what Mark Allen does? Get your hands on some $2 bills. Change singles to two's, and then change the two's to whatever other denomination you want. This way you get a less expensive gimmick and the $2 bills are novel items so you can be creative with the patter.

For the Hundy 500 I always use 100's but if I did not want to carry that much around then I think the $2 bill would be the next best because as Frank said they are novel and you can use the gag of saying I will show you how to double your money, and then fold the money in half, after the laugh or groan you then open up to show the $2 bills and you have indeed doubled your money. It makes sense and the novelty of the bills works well. I had passed that along to Greg awhile ago and he also agreed and has passed along this idea as well.

Ashah,
Do you have both effects for comparison or are you just commenting on Hundy 500? I have found that ease of moves is often in the eye (fingers?) of the beholder.

Thanks for responding,
Bruce

Nope, I'm just commenting on Hundy 500. I don't have 3D Cash, though I'm pretty sure I know how it works. It's true that some people find certain moves more easy/difficult than others do, but Hundy 500 really is effortless. The focus is very much on the patter rather than the moves, because the handling is so straightforward.

I just watched the online demo video for 3D Cash, and I'm guessing that the difficulty you might be having is the part where you slide a flap over right before the change. Hundy 500 doesn't have anything as complicated as that, though one can argue that it is less magical-looking as a result. In Hundy, you do the change out in the open.

Richard Sanders' Slow Burn is the same thing as Hundy 500, but with a more magical change. However, it is more angle sensitive and requires a bit more practice as a result.

Ok I converted mine to hundreds and it is a a lot better reaction.

Ashah,
Thanks for your comments. I have difficulty holding the packet w/out tipping the gaff. Is that a problem w/ Hundy? 3D cash has three changes, does hundy have three also?

THanks,
Bruce

Hundy only has one change (in other words, you can go from ones to hundreds, or ones to fives, or whatever). So there are only two types of bills involved. In my handling, I show 4 one dollar bills and then change them to 4 five dollar bills.

As you know, 3D Cash has 3 types of bills, and two changes (for example, you can go from ones to fives to hundreds).

Since Hundy requires fewer bills, you can have a much smaller packet. The only difficult part about the routine is displaying the bills openly without tipping the gaff. But since the packet is pretty thin, I think it's a heck of a lot easier to do. The gaffed part of the packet is twice as thick in 3D Cash when you're displaying the bills. Also, the handling in Hundy ensures that the thickness of the extra bills can never really be seen.

I think the fact that you can have 2 changes makes 3D Cash very magical, but the reason I never bought it is that I know the packet would be too thick for my liking, especially in a very close-up surrounded situation.

Also, in general, it helps if your bills are all crisp and sharply creased in the middle. That will keep them all together, and they will also stay more flat that way.

As the gimmick is the exactly the same: the first transformation I execute with the method of "Hundy 500"and in the second transformation (the return) with method of "Slow Burn". The reation is great because the final transformation (of "Slow Burn") is very visual and impressing . Great apotheosis... Same effect, but for different methods.

Did it las t night at a night club and it destroyed them. I love this effect.

I don't think the size of the 3-D cash packet is any problem at all. I do it all the time very close up for people. It is not hard to hide the size of the packet if you follow Mark's instructions on the DVD, he specifically addresses how to hold it.

The sides are covered the base of your thumb on one side and your fingertips on the other. You point the edges of the packet downward so the spec's don't get a real good look at the packet edges, to further conceal the front edges rest your index finger along the front edge.

After you peel the first bill back with your thumbtip, use your thumb to slightly kick the remaining three bills forward slightly, this will completely hide the thickness of the front edges. Finish peeling the bills back with your thumb tip.

As soon as you finish and rotate the bills over as per Mark's teaching, you now have the wad of bills safe and sound in the palm of your right hand. All you have to do is make sure the bottom left corner of the wad does not stick out further than the front bill covering it. You cover the back of it with one of the bills as per Mark's instructions, you are completely covered.

Once you turn the bills back over to get ready to square them up and go into the change, you have all the cover of the top bills concealing the packet.

If you follow his coreography precisely, you will never flash the packet, and his coreography is very natural, no rapid flipping and smacking of the bills, etc.

I personally think Mark's handling is superior to the others. But that is up to personal opinion...